Luckily for the writers, most of the people who went to see the movie didn't give a crap about the science behind it. They just wanted to see an entertaining movie.
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Luckily for the writers, most of the people who went to see the movie didn't give a crap about the science behind it. They just wanted to see an entertaining movie.
Sci-fi blockbusters always manipulate/exaggerate real science for the purpose of the story/movie. The reason there's no sound in space when Ms. Unlucky is sucked out to space while the rest of the movie space is full of discreet, boisterous sound is because it worked well with the scene's tone and was, well, cool.
And at least the science in this caught had the basics of the basics of the science behind it. It's not like the super nova created an invisible energy wave that infected the core of every planet it touched with the very cold 'blue matter.'
Supernova makes big explosion. Black holes suck stuff in. That's good enough for me.
And at least the science in this caught had the basics of the basics of the science behind it. It's not like the super nova created an invisible energy wave that infected the core of every planet it touched with the very cold 'blue matter.'
Supernova makes big explosion. Black holes suck stuff in. That's good enough for me.
Lead contender for the 2009 Worst Ignorance of Science in a Film? See today's Star Trek by the Minute 076: Meld Begins http://is.gd/8uMLB
076? Seriously?
Yeah, it helps keep the files alphabetical and chronological. Only 42 episodes to go!
That's all fine and interesting, but why is it 076 as opposed to 76?
"Fans who aren't ritualistic about canon"? Do such things actually exist?
Because without the lead zero, the "STbtM 100-117" would appear in my directories after the first entry but before any of the 20's, 30's, etc.
It's too bad the majority of the comics and novels aren't considered canon in Trek. still trying to figure out who came up with that rule, some people say GR came up with it, the thing I can't understand is why!?
Are the movie novels and comics considered canon? All they do is expand on what is seen in the actual movie!
James
Are the movie novels and comics considered canon? All they do is expand on what is seen in the actual movie!
James
Naah. It's difficult enough to keep the aired material cross-consistent; it would be hopeless to try and hold the comics to the same standard. So they are allowed to be as contradictory as they wish, and they aren't supposed to be referenced by the writers of aired stuff. (In contrast, writers of aired stuff are supposed to keep their stories straight with other aired stuff, and various people will come and point it out if they are making errors there.)
Novelizations are no more canon than any other type of book, except when they happen to parrot things that are canon. This was never a rule invoked "in anger", in order to secure financial gain or something - unlike most of Roddenberry's other "rules". It is simple pragmatism, and really more fan-made than anything else: the main advocates of canonical purity have been people working only peripherally on the shows but deliberately opting to keep their own off-show activities at a lower status so that their beloved fictional universe may best remain untarnished...
The story of the Hobus star is needless and implausible in comparison with what was shown on screen: a star goes kaboom, a planet next to is destroyed, a black hole negates the kaboom but a bit too late. When the story also throws in the Borg, who had nothing to do with the movie, and resurrects a dead character for cheap laughs, and tries to portray every piece of technology in the movie as having been originated by the heroes of some other scifi show... Well, my first choice wouldn't be to put that on the canon shelf.
Timo Saloniemi
Novelizations are no more canon than any other type of book, except when they happen to parrot things that are canon. This was never a rule invoked "in anger", in order to secure financial gain or something - unlike most of Roddenberry's other "rules". It is simple pragmatism, and really more fan-made than anything else: the main advocates of canonical purity have been people working only peripherally on the shows but deliberately opting to keep their own off-show activities at a lower status so that their beloved fictional universe may best remain untarnished...
The story of the Hobus star is needless and implausible in comparison with what was shown on screen: a star goes kaboom, a planet next to is destroyed, a black hole negates the kaboom but a bit too late. When the story also throws in the Borg, who had nothing to do with the movie, and resurrects a dead character for cheap laughs, and tries to portray every piece of technology in the movie as having been originated by the heroes of some other scifi show... Well, my first choice wouldn't be to put that on the canon shelf.
Timo Saloniemi
The Borg were in the movie, WHERE!
James
James
The Narada was refitted with Born nanites, according to Countdown. It was also sentient like V'Ger according to the Nero comics.The Borg were in the movie, WHERE!
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What kept the Klingons from taking the Narada apart reverse engineering the technology?
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James
They're not very smart.
This is why books and comics aren't canon.The Narada was refitted with Born nanites, according to Countdown. It was also sentient like V'Ger according to the Nero comics.The Borg were in the movie, WHERE!
James
Well, I'm glad YOU said that about the Klingons and not me, I might've thought it but you said it!
About the books, both novels and comics, an explanation was given in a post upthread.
James
About the books, both novels and comics, an explanation was given in a post upthread.
James
So only stuff that makes it on screen is canon (according to you)?This is why books and comics aren't canon.The Narada was refitted with Born nanites, according to Countdown. It was also sentient like V'Ger according to the Nero comics.The Borg were in the movie, WHERE!
James
@James
They couldn't reverse engineer it because it was sentient and every time the Klingons took a piece of it away it would just regrow and the part they took would become useless.
Klingons felt it better to simply imound Narada at Rura Penthe. Just in case Nero and his gang ever escaped, they'd probably want their ship back.
But seriously, I've been asking the same question since I learned about the deleted Klingon material.
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