Sugar
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Don't forget obesity and diabetes and all the other good stuff.
Here is one link about sugar and cancer. It does not say sugar causes cancer. It does say that that lots of sugar in the bloods happens together with a higher risk for cancer. Not good enough for you, but good enough for me.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/64093.php
Scientific fact: High levels of blood sugar "happen together" with a higher risk for cancer.
From that I draw the subjective conclusion that sugar causes cancer. Of course I may be wrong. But what you make of my personal conclusion does not change the facts, namely that high levels of blood sugar "happen together" with a higher risk for cancer.
From that I draw the subjective conclusion that sugar causes cancer. Of course I may be wrong. But what you make of my personal conclusion does not change the facts, namely that high levels of blood sugar "happen together" with a higher risk for cancer.
A gazillion things happen together and yet have nothing to do with the causation of one another.
I just farted and there's hurricane winds in Outer Botswana. Did my flatulence cause the storm?
-Rabittooth
I just farted and there's hurricane winds in Outer Botswana. Did my flatulence cause the storm?
-Rabittooth
As to cancer loving sugar, I've heard of this too...
I highly recommend the book to anybody interested "Anticancer: A New Way of Life" written by Dr. David Servan-Schreiber who himself was diagnosed with cancer and out of frustration with the 1 dimensional attitude of surgery/chemo/radiation western doctors have toward cancer came up with this book concerning lifestyle changes that help one beat cancer and are backed by clinical studies.
One of the things he mentioned was that cancer cells and tumors really do need sugar to survive.
Here is a blip from a newspaper article on sugar:
Lot's more good tips on foods to eat and things to avoid to beat cancer in the article...
I highly recommend the book to anybody interested "Anticancer: A New Way of Life" written by Dr. David Servan-Schreiber who himself was diagnosed with cancer and out of frustration with the 1 dimensional attitude of surgery/chemo/radiation western doctors have toward cancer came up with this book concerning lifestyle changes that help one beat cancer and are backed by clinical studies.
One of the things he mentioned was that cancer cells and tumors really do need sugar to survive.
Here is a blip from a newspaper article on sugar:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/you...r-diet--introducing-healthy-new-way-life.html
Lot's more good tips on foods to eat and things to avoid to beat cancer in the article...
All Seeing Eye
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Those links don't answer my specific questions and reading those articles can't generate discussion.
Besides, Google causes cancer.
All Seeing Eye
Admiral
Reading half the posts on the TrekBBS causes eye and brain cancer.
Let's recap: a scientist won the Nobel price for research into the connection between sugar and cancer. A fact that penetrated some skulls, I hope.
It was awkward for me to see people without knowledge dispute my statements, even a moderator among them. Now with some science on the table, I feel the truth has won out.
Splitting hairs over the word "cause" does not change the fundamentals: sugar (the refined white variety used for cake, soft drinks, candy, also called glucose on the labels) is one of the worst possible choices of food. It is directly linked to several serious and lethal diseases, among them diabetes and cancer. As little as possible is how to treat it.
Of course, sometimes my breakfast is coffee and pie. But, not everything causes cancer, not everything is equally harmful. But the proof is there that sugar/candy/sweets is with a distance among the worst possible dietary options. It is, IMHO, a poison.
It was awkward for me to see people without knowledge dispute my statements, even a moderator among them. Now with some science on the table, I feel the truth has won out.
Splitting hairs over the word "cause" does not change the fundamentals: sugar (the refined white variety used for cake, soft drinks, candy, also called glucose on the labels) is one of the worst possible choices of food. It is directly linked to several serious and lethal diseases, among them diabetes and cancer. As little as possible is how to treat it.
Of course, sometimes my breakfast is coffee and pie. But, not everything causes cancer, not everything is equally harmful. But the proof is there that sugar/candy/sweets is with a distance among the worst possible dietary options. It is, IMHO, a poison.
The problem is that you said that sugar causes cancer, when in fact your evidence is only a link. That is not the same as cause. Let's say that researchers find that people with cancer or people who will get cancer later eat more sugar. That is a link, and you would then say that sugar causes cancer. That link would also be found if people with cancer had a craving for sugar and ate more sugar. Or, perhaps a particular mutation that increased the likelihood of cancer also caused a craving for sugar. In that case, sugar does not cause cancer, but cancer causes sugar, or something else is the cause of both. If either of the other are true, then avoiding sugar so that you don't get cancer only results in unfulfilled cravings and misery, and no reduced risk of cancer.
I'm not advocating that we all go eat chocolate and Twinkies for breakfast; on the contrary, we do need to be careful with our sugar intake. But to eliminate it entirely is just as bad as eating way too much.
BCI, you've said not once, but twice that sugar causes cancer, and despite my invitation to you to prove otherwise, you've done little more than wriggle and split hairs yourself over the issue. Am I to take it that you're ready to concede that said statements were bullocks? C'mon, just admit it.
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