Sucker Punch (Film 2011) Grading/Discussion

[O'Dib]

O'dib are you trying to make some kind of comments other than just randomingly insulting the movie? We get you didn't like it.

It's obviously a very polarizing movie. Many here are passionate about championing its cause, while I toil away at pointing out it sucks the big one. Considering how much song and dance is required to find meaning in the steaming pile, I don't feel a whole lot of explaining is needed as to why..

^ That too is part of the Sucker Punch. The whole entire movie is one big sucker punch. I'm not sure people are grasping that concept. Bad movie or not aside.

See, like this, I guess the title holds a big clue as to the film's purpose? (as if the monologues didn't insult our intelligence by explicitly stating its message)

As I said, if I was literally meant to feel like I had been sucker punched (repeatedly) after walking out of the theater, then Zach did what he set out to do. It was a rather severe beating with noise and images disconnected from any emotion. Senseless violence.

 

[Admiral_Young]

I agree that it is a polarizing film but that doesn't mean that we can't still discuss the issues as to why it is. I think a part of the problem with this film too was the pre-hype. I think (and I was one of them) that a lot of fans probably thought this was gonna be another "Inception" except with video game type graphic and hot girls with guns.

It's interesting that no one seems to be able to come to any kind of consensus about it. I have tried to find reasons not to like the film but simply haven't. I personally enjoy the hell out of it and understand to some level what it is about and the messages that were being given in the film. My friends enjoyed it as merely a blockbuster fluff film, and we didn't really get into a big discussion about all the layers in the movie. As I mentioned earlier in the thread I think I'm not here to change people's minds about liking the movie or not just expressing my own opinion as someone who enjoyed the film.

 

[RyanKCR]

Rocket died! Unless I'm mixing them all up, I thought she was Sweet Pea's sister?

I get that events in the brothel mirrored the asylum, I just failed to see how this was any kind of escape. She was substituting one kind of horror for another and I just don't think this would be what a young teenage girl in the 50s would imagine in order to escape from reality (and actually neither are zombie Germans and giant samurai death robots now we're on the subject) Something like the fantastical elements in Peter Jackson's wonderful Heavenly Creatures would be more likely.

The brothel was not a mirror for the asylum but a mirror for the pain she suffers because of the death of her sister. She was trying to escape that pain and the brothel took the place of the pain and she was trying to escape the brothel, and that was the purpose of the quests. Each quest that happened in the fantasy world mirrored a real event in the asylum which ultimately led to Sweet Pea's escape. Babydoll's escape from the pain came in the form of the lobotomy.

 

[Starkers]

Events in the brothel did mirror events in the asylum though. And I still don't engage with the notion of a character creating one fantasy to escape the pain, then creating another fantasy on top of that. The brothel serves no narrative purpose except in that it allows the girls to look hotter than if we'd just left them in the drab asylum.

Now if the brothel had been the only fantasy that could've worked, but then Snyder couldn't have had all his ninja robots and stuff.

 

[The Mirrorball Man]

I still don't engage with the notion of a character creating one fantasy to escape the pain, then creating another fantasy on top of that.

I see you haven't met my ex girlfriend.

 

[Starkers]

I still don't engage with the notion of a character creating one fantasy to escape the pain, then creating another fantasy on top of that.

I see you haven't met my ex girlfriend.