sub rosa's ronin = lasher?

[data_lover]

so im watching sub rosa (which is really lame, i know) but it reminds me of an old anne rice book called lasher...

lasher summary:



At the center of this dark and compelling tale is Rowan Mayfair (Beverly Crusher), queen (Doctor) of the coven (Enterprise), who must flee from the darkly brutal, yet irresistible demon (energy) known as Lasher (Ronin). With a dreamlike power, this wickedly seductive entity draws us through twilight paths, seducing generations of Mayfair (Crusher) women, and telling a chilling and hypnotic story of spiritual (anaphasic) seduction and passion.

cheap, ptb!

 

[22 Stars]

This episode does not stand up to, nor deserve close scrutiny. Move along, nothing to see here

 

[data_lover]

This episode does not stand up to, nor deserve close scrutiny. Move along, nothing to see here

 

[David cgc]

so im watching sub rosa (which is really lame, i know) but it reminds me of an old anne rice book called lasher...

lasher summary:



At the center of this dark and compelling tale is Rowan Mayfair (Beverly Crusher), queen (Doctor) of the coven (Enterprise), who must flee from the darkly brutal, yet irresistible demon (energy) known as Lasher (Ronin). With a dreamlike power, this wickedly seductive entity draws us through twilight paths, seducing generations of Mayfair (Crusher) women, and telling a chilling and hypnotic story of spiritual (anaphasic) seduction and passion.

cheap, ptb!

From The Agony Booth.

It's as if the writer took a really hokey, poorly-written supernatural romance novel, sprinkled in a few scenes taking place aboard a starship, and called it an episode of Star Trek.

In fact, that may not be far off from the truth. After "Sub Rosa" aired, a lot of fans were immediately up in arms over what they saw as blatant plagiarism of the Anne Rice novels The Witching Hour and Lasher. I can't personally comment on similarities, because, as regular visitors to this site know, I can't read. Plus, the two books together total over 1,700 pages [!!]. If anyone out there has the patience to read these two novels in order to fully grasp the similarities, than all I can say is good luck and let me know how it goes.

Still, just a quick glance at the back covers of the novels reveals just how much of this episode has been stolen from Anne Rice's novels. But more on this at the end of the recap.

Now, as I mentioned before, a lot of this story seems to be, as one fan put it, "a blatant rip-off of Anne Rice's The Witching Hour, with the notable exception that the book was good." Here are a few of the similarities between the episode and the novel that I was able to glean after just a wee bit o' Google-ing. In both "Sub Rosa" and Rice's novel:

-The main character is a doctor,

-Said main character is the latest in a long line of female healers,

-Flowers figure heavily in both plots,

-The ghost originates from Scotland,

-The ghost is passed from mother to daughter down through the generations,

-The ghost uses his sexual powers to achieve his aims,

-The ghost wants to take on a human form more than anything,

-And finally, a family heirloom provides the system that helps the ghost survive (in the book, it's a necklace).

Me, I'm no lawyer, but I think it's fair to say that Anne Rice probably deserved to be credited on this episode. And, as it turns out, she may have been.

Buried deep in the closing credits of this episode, just above "Filmed with PANAVISION Lenses and Cameras", there's a credit reading "Based Upon Material By Jeanna F. Gallo", and according to many viewers, this credit didn't appear in the original airing.

The producers later claimed this episode was similar to a spec script submitted by Jeanna F. Gallo. However, the mysterious Ms. Gallo has no other credits to her name besides this episode, and, really, if Gallo actually exists and she really did write the spec script, why would they bury her credit in the technical acknowledgements where (they hoped) nobody would see it?

Obviously, "Jeanna F. Gallo" is a pseudonym for Anne Rice, used to allow Rice to receive the royalties entitled to her while still remaining anonymous. This means "Sub Rosa" sucked so bad, not even Rice wanted to take credit for coming up with the original idea.

 

[gianderosa1990]

This episode does not stand up to, nor deserve close scrutiny. Move along, nothing to see here

I though it was a decent episode, not your typical space themed adventure, limited footage spent on the ship itself. What I thought was rather funny was the fact that humans actually decided to recreate Scotland on a distant planet! And an alien fell in love with the Scottish culture!!! lol