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Probably to fit him in to the dynamic of DS9. Worf was the Chief of Security and surrounded by all Starfleet officers, while DS9 had that mix, and even then Worf was not quite a smooth fit. He had to find a new niche to fill out. I'd say Worf was much more a fish out of water in DS9 than TNG at times.
He definitely was, case in point being his move to the Defiant to get away from everyone. It just feels like they took away the warmth he actually had as a person. On the Enterprise he had friends (or family really) who he would gladly spend his off duty time. You'd see him play poker or sit in Ten Forward for a drink with other officers but he just looked so uncomfortable any time he walked into Quarks and someone would say hello to him.
It's almost as if they wanted another private character like Picard was, but it didn't really fit what we'd seen to that point.
About Worf and DS9, I shouldn't say this, again, but I think I would've liked it better if Worf never joined DS9.
It expended the character but I liked Worf as he was in TNG better.
It expended the character but I liked Worf as he was in TNG better.
I mean, you try making the changes you did in to DS9. He gets second guessed by Odo for his security decisions, he is on the front lines of an incoming war, and torn between his desire as a Klingon and as a Starfleet officer. He would not be comfortable and the change had an impact on the character.
Far from being less warm, I think Worf is more understandable as a character in DS9, at least for me.
Granddad Worf from Star Trek VI might still have been alive in present day to hang out with his grandson.
Different writers and show runners....
I'm watching TOS "The Naked Time" and Tormolen is a deadset idiot taking his environment suit off. Also I feel this episode is way better than "The Naked Now." I didn't realise how many beats were just straight reused for the remake. I'd thought going into it the only thing in common was a virus made them wacky. So strange.
And yet the tone is so different. TNT actually delves into the characters and gives us insights into them. TNN is a clumsy attempt at a PG-rated sex comedy in space.
They took a word that had referred to raw, latent, emotional vulnerabilities/sensibilities and made it literal.
I think he was suppose to die at the Khitomer Attack.
Yeah, when I rewatched TOS I was struck by just the lack of protocol followed in preventing disease spread. Frustrating.
Yup. Like if there’s some green goo or something in TOS, someone always touches it with their bare hand.
Usually at the exact same moment another character says ‘don’t touch that’.
Too late. Goo touched. Now the toucher is gone done for.
Usually at the exact same moment another character says ‘don’t touch that’.
Too late. Goo touched. Now the toucher is gone done for.
And yet nobody even gets naked on screen, since they're on 1980s TV.
But no joking, I saw the Naked Now long before the Naked Time and it took me a while to realize that the title of the original episode was meant metaphorically.
Cochrane was probably the first Emperor of the Terran Empire, right?
I don't know how popular this opinion is, but I didn't like Worf on DS9 for his first year. I thought they could have come up with a better reason for him to be on DS9 other than (paraphrasing) "The Ent D is gone, and its not the same". Plus, it seemed like they were intentionally trying to make his character butt heads with Odo and the others. However, once he formed relationships with Dax and Martok, he was far more interesting.
That's a good way to tie that off (not sarcasm btw). I think I just never realised that he could have lived to when Worf was around and just imagining photoshopping him into background of scenes.
In In Theory, they need to avoid random dark matter pockets in a nebula, which they can only detect on very short range. So it is decided they will send out a more maneuverable shuttlecraft in front, to have some advance warning. Riker wants to pilot the shuttle, but Picard calls him back, telling him that he believes they'll have the best chance if he pilots the shuttle.
Now we know from other episodes (e.g. Chain of Command) that Riker supposedly is the best pilot (although that is in a situation where Picard is not on board). Are we supposed to believe that Picard is (or at least believes himself to be) an even better pilot?
(And actually I think Data should be able to significantly outperform them both).
Now we know from other episodes (e.g. Chain of Command) that Riker supposedly is the best pilot (although that is in a situation where Picard is not on board). Are we supposed to believe that Picard is (or at least believes himself to be) an even better pilot?
(And actually I think Data should be able to significantly outperform them both).
I never thought of that, in that episode the thing that makes me wonder is that after Picard is transported back to the ship from the shuttle Riker just orders "Let's make a run for it."
What, weren't you supposed to be careful or something?
Or, were they super close to the edge of the nebula at that point?
Well, in The Battle Picard says something about doing “what any good helmsman would have done” and doesn’t Riker respond in some way like he’s impressed? Still, I feel like more than once they imply Riker is the best pilot on the Enterprise.
Perhaps the wrong thread but who do we suppose is the best pilot we have seen in Trek?
LaForge bragged about being a good pilot to Jellico before saying Riker was even better.
Sisko says that Kira is a good pilot but that O’Brian is even better.
Tom is like a career pilot. Lieutenant Stadi? Sulu? Lt. Ilario?
I feel like we see Jadzia and Nog do some of the fanciest flying
Perhaps the wrong thread but who do we suppose is the best pilot we have seen in Trek?
LaForge bragged about being a good pilot to Jellico before saying Riker was even better.
Sisko says that Kira is a good pilot but that O’Brian is even better.
Tom is like a career pilot. Lieutenant Stadi? Sulu? Lt. Ilario?
I feel like we see Jadzia and Nog do some of the fanciest flying
Yes, I thought that was amazing too. After all, Picard's shuttle was just disabled and destroyed because of those pockets.
The least they could have done was add a short expository line, something the likes of
Well, we really ought to get another shuttle out, but we've already passed the 40 minutes mark as it is and we still have to cram in that Data girlfriend breakup scene, so let's make a run for it.
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