STTMP music

[Jeffe63]

Isnt it funny that that (Titanic) should be the score that won him an Oscar? (He might have won for Baveheart, Im not sure). I will say that there were a few tracks from Titanic that, after I saw the film, made me feel very sad for the plight of the poor victims we saw portrayed in the movie. I know, I sound like a wuss.

Braveheart and Cocoon both have tracks as well that evoke emotion.

 

[Peach Wookiee]

I thought the Titanic score was pretty good. I bought it.

 

[tharpdevenport]

As well I. The only Horner scores I have hated (very much):

Krull
Enemey At the Gates

 

[A beaker full of death]

OphaClyde said:
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Ahhhh, Lars Gnuderstardt....

:thumbsup:

 

[Jeffe63]

Does anyone know if its possible to find Lars Gnuderstardt's composition online? (part of me thinks this is a joke, i've never heard of this other track or this gnuder guy).

 

[Opus]

Jeffe63 said:
Does anyone know if its possible to find Lars Gnuderstardt's composition online? (part of me thinks this is a joke, i've never heard of this other track or this gnuder guy).

The repression of Lars Gnuderstardt's works is the only true conspiracy this world has ever seen... or not seen... I really don't know how that all works and I've never seen 'JFK'.

 

[Jeffe63]

I Googled "Lars Gnuderstardt" and the only links I got were from The Trek BBS site. Now Im really starting to think this guy never existed.

 

[A beaker full of death]

Jeffe63 said:
Does anyone know if its possible to find Lars Gnuderstardt's composition online? (part of me thinks this is a joke, i've never heard of this other track or this gnuder guy).

More's the pity.

 

[new_mercury]

Tharpdevenport said:
Dennis McCarthy did the original theme. And they didn't like it and used Goldsmith's TMP.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BCjuOhTiEmY
Credits with the original theme.

It sounnds like a Superman Theme tune thank god his Generations score is much better.
Even goldmiths original TMP score wasn't as great as it eventually was as seen on the Directors Edition special features.

 

[Deleted 2]

^ Those two or three phrases of the music can give no indication of how 'great' a theme is, but I'll say that they sounded infinitely more enticing than the pompous, brassy mess we ended up with.

What people see in Goldsmith's "Enterprise" theme will always remain a mystery to me.

 

[Brutal Strudel]

OphaClyde said:
No possibility of a "Hurricane Strudel" after he left.

The hell you say!

 

[jbake]

I half agree with Zerohour. I feel the ENT(both versions), VOY and DS9(later version. although i am moved also by the hauntingly elegiac mood of the original), are better than the TNG themes(either of them)


The TMP/TNG theme opening bars are far too jaunty and saltydog "weigh anchour mehearties for me" for me. Although I do like the theme after the strings takeover the lead melody. I love the french horns rolling countermelody bit also, and the coda is great and certainly stirringly bold


As for the McCarthy score, the opening bars... I didnt like. Overly "All-Americanly" heroic, would be a great theme for Buzzlightyear. Plus with his style of all instruments playing a single melody, with no countermelody or "bed" under the melody, it sounds onepaced and weak. However after Marina Sirtis' name appears, the soothing strings take the lead, the music starts to work, building towards those ripping final bars.


A better crescendo to the finish than the TMP theme... soaring to the stars

 

[Basill]

Well, I likes me a brassy mess.

 

[Brutal Strudel]

So do I, especially ones who work long hours in roadside hash houses and want to cut loose with a few beers and some slap and tickle...

...oh, we're talking about Goldsmith's unparalleled music for Trek? I'm not gonna bother defending it--it's like defending the Mona Lisa or Shaakespeare. Somebody's always gonna dislike something. We don't always have to try and change their minds.

McCarthy's theme was a joke from start to finish. Whenever I hear it, I picture a bare chested Riker swinging amongst the the rigging, clutching a tight-bodiced Troi, with "Romance!" plastered across the screen.

 

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Brutal Strudel said:
...oh, we're talking about Goldsmith's unparalleled music for Trek? I'm not gonna bother defending it--it's like defending the Mona Lisa or Shaakespeare. Somebody's always gonna dislike something.

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Oh come on. Unparalleled? The Enterprise theme? Well, to each their own.

 

[Brutal Strudel]

In terms of Trek music? Oh, yeah. In terms of movie music in general? It's up there with the best. In terms of all music? Nah, even I have a sense of proportion.

 

[xortex]

Zero hour, please be my guest and write a better theme.

 

[A beaker full of death]

xortex said:
Zero hour, please be my guest and write a better theme.

That's just silly.

 

[CoveTom]

Zero Hour said:
Oh come on. Unparalleled? The Enterprise theme? Well, to each their own.

The TMP score is no Mozart or Beethoven composition to be sure, but I would say without hesitation that it is one of the top 10 film scores of all time, if not one of the top 5.

 

[A beaker full of death]

CoveTom said:
The TMP score is no Mozart or Beethoven composition to be sure, but I would say without hesitation that it is one of the top 10 film scores of all time, if not one of the top 5.

Oh hell no. It's easily surpassed by some of the best work of Elmer Bernstein, Leonard Bernstein, Andre Previn, Goldsmith himself, John Williams, Lars Gnuderstardt, Bernard Hermann, Max Steiner and Ennio Morricone.