Spoilers Stranger Things - Season 5

[theenglish]

On the contrary, they deserved to be ridiculed; they had made such a bad final season, or even the last two seasons.

There was a lot that wasn't under their control. Martin had only given them the basics of the end of the story. Actors (and maybe HBO?) were tired and wanted to move on forcing the plot to be crammed into few episodes. And they didn't have Martin's actual dialogue and written pages to base the screenplay on.

The pacing was completely off in those last two seasons and some of the dialogue was pretty bad, I agree, but Martin's plot elements and planned resolution were still there and I'm glad to have an ending to the story that we may never actually see on the written page, at least completed by the man himself.

 

[oktay]

There was a lot that wasn't under their control. Martin had only given them the basics of the end of the story. Actors (and maybe HBO?) were tired and wanted to move on forcing the plot to be crammed into few episodes. And they didn't have Martin's actual dialogue and written pages to base the screenplay on.

The pacing was completely off in those last two seasons and some of the dialogue was pretty bad, I agree, but Martin's plot elements and planned resolution were still there and I'm glad to have an ending to the story that we may never actually see on the written page, at least completed by the man himself.

I agree with everything you said, but I still think the last two seasons were bad.

 

[theenglish]

I agree with everything you said, but I still think the last two seasons were bad.

Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion. I respect that.

 

[eschaton]

Game of Thrones didn't deserve the treatment it got.

I agree that Season 8 wasn't a major step down from Season 7. In fact, I think it's a bit better, as I legit liked a few elements (the episode A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, the use of Arya/The Hound, etc.).

I think fandom was just wishcasting that Season 8 would somehow magically fix all of the issues they had with the series from Season 5 onwards. When it failed to do that, people lost faith in the entire series.

There was a lot that wasn't under their control. Martin had only given them the basics of the end of the story. Actors (and maybe HBO?) were tired and wanted to move on forcing the plot to be crammed into few episodes. And they didn't have Martin's actual dialogue and written pages to base the screenplay on.

Both Martin and HBO were on records for wanting 10 or more seasons. It was completely on D&D to wrap up the series in just eight seasons. They were the ones bored with what they were doing, and wanted to go on to direct the Star Wars trilogy that was floated for them that turned into vaporware (like most announced Star Wars projects).

I think they should've just turned over the series to Bryan Cogman to finish, TBH, if they were sick of it.

The pacing was completely off in those last two seasons and some of the dialogue was pretty bad, I agree, but Martin's plot elements and planned resolution were still there and I'm glad to have an ending to the story that we may never actually see on the written page, at least completed by the man himself.

I agree that they largely kept to the proposed ending of the series, but the decision to not include Young Griff from the novels IMHO pretty much wrecked the end of the story.

 

[oktay]

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lol and the contraversys begins

 

[FreezeC77]

I'm wondering if the Duffer's are annoyed/angry that all the various delays whether it be covid or strike-related ended up messing up their plans to start (and finish) a show with age appropriate actors and see those actors 'age-out' of the roles they envisioned them for.

Having them then suddenly make Holly Wheeler a main character with the most screen time in the final season and showing the 'child actor plotlines' they envisioned the main cast delivering on.

 

[FreezeC77]

I agree about the military plot line, especially treating the officers like they were Star Wars Imperial Troopers. I didn't liked the attacks on them in this recent installment of episodes. I can't imagine what is going to happen following this episode as there must have been reports that were transmitted outside of Hawkins. The only way to save our characters is to have some throwaway like they are actually a rogue operation, which would just make no sense.

Yea, I did jokingly mention earlier that the characters have been racking up a BODY COUNT against the US military. (besides the demi-gorgon's slaughtering a bunch)

They are going to be reporting a heckuva lot of 'training accidents' for 1987 troop deaths.

 

[oktay]

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Stranger Things finale includes a hidden clue to the franchise’s next chapter | The National

Series creators discuss how they shaped its end, if characters may die, and the moment that points to the future

www.thenationalnews.com

 

[The Grinch Doctor]

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Stranger Things finale includes a hidden clue to the franchise’s next chapter | The National

Series creators discuss how they shaped its end, if characters may die, and the moment that points to the future

www.thenationalnews.com

I was thinking about the spin-off after we learned about the true nature of the Upside Down and I'm very curious as to how it can happen, while completely separated from the Hawkins characters as indicated by the Duffer brothers. I'll definitely be keeping an eye out for this small scene.

 

[JD]

Yeah, that is definitely an intriguing tease.