Spoilers Stranger Things - Season 5

[theenglish]

On the contrary, they deserved to be ridiculed; they had made such a bad final season, or even the last two seasons.

There was a lot that wasn't under their control. Martin had only given them the basics of the end of the story. Actors (and maybe HBO?) were tired and wanted to move on forcing the plot to be crammed into few episodes. And they didn't have Martin's actual dialogue and written pages to base the screenplay on.

The pacing was completely off in those last two seasons and some of the dialogue was pretty bad, I agree, but Martin's plot elements and planned resolution were still there and I'm glad to have an ending to the story that we may never actually see on the written page, at least completed by the man himself.

 

[oktay]

There was a lot that wasn't under their control. Martin had only given them the basics of the end of the story. Actors (and maybe HBO?) were tired and wanted to move on forcing the plot to be crammed into few episodes. And they didn't have Martin's actual dialogue and written pages to base the screenplay on.

The pacing was completely off in those last two seasons and some of the dialogue was pretty bad, I agree, but Martin's plot elements and planned resolution were still there and I'm glad to have an ending to the story that we may never actually see on the written page, at least completed by the man himself.

I agree with everything you said, but I still think the last two seasons were bad.

 

[theenglish]

I agree with everything you said, but I still think the last two seasons were bad.

Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion. I respect that.

 

[eschaton]

Game of Thrones didn't deserve the treatment it got.

I agree that Season 8 wasn't a major step down from Season 7. In fact, I think it's a bit better, as I legit liked a few elements (the episode A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, the use of Arya/The Hound, etc.).

I think fandom was just wishcasting that Season 8 would somehow magically fix all of the issues they had with the series from Season 5 onwards. When it failed to do that, people lost faith in the entire series.

There was a lot that wasn't under their control. Martin had only given them the basics of the end of the story. Actors (and maybe HBO?) were tired and wanted to move on forcing the plot to be crammed into few episodes. And they didn't have Martin's actual dialogue and written pages to base the screenplay on.

Both Martin and HBO were on records for wanting 10 or more seasons. It was completely on D&D to wrap up the series in just eight seasons. They were the ones bored with what they were doing, and wanted to go on to direct the Star Wars trilogy that was floated for them that turned into vaporware (like most announced Star Wars projects).

I think they should've just turned over the series to Bryan Cogman to finish, TBH, if they were sick of it.

The pacing was completely off in those last two seasons and some of the dialogue was pretty bad, I agree, but Martin's plot elements and planned resolution were still there and I'm glad to have an ending to the story that we may never actually see on the written page, at least completed by the man himself.

I agree that they largely kept to the proposed ending of the series, but the decision to not include Young Griff from the novels IMHO pretty much wrecked the end of the story.

 

[oktay]

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