This is the only way I would want it.... No McCoy, no Chekov. Let's see Mitchell and Lee kelso and Sulu pre bridge and Dr Piper and build into the where no man stuff. Making it the true tragedy that it is.
Strange New Worlds' showrunners advise fans to write to Skydance and Paramount if they're interested in a "Year One" Kirk sequel series
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Fans then screamed, "But what about cAnON?" So they brought in Pike and Spock.
Fans greatly overestimate how much their feedback dictates creators' decisions.
And there were plenty of TOS continuity references in DSC season 1, like Sarek, Harry Mudd, and the Mirror Universe.
Yes.
Nobody will stop ya.
If they want to reboot TOS they should just reboot TOS because that's where all this is heading towards.
And yet the producers have done so since the beginning.
Absolutely works for me.
A TOS reboot could be just what's needed, but I hope they'd fully commit to it and write something tonally and structurally akin to TOS (barring the recurring pathetic misogyny). The world of TOS begs for a kind of unironic theatrical melodrama, and unashamed pulpy-ness, that modern writers sometimes seem hesitant to replicate.
We've already had it (The Kelvin films).
My gist was that the potential benefits of a TOS reboot would arise from a return to its tone and model of storytelling.
Aren't we supposed to be pushing the franchise FORWARD (as opposed to doing endless 23rd century reboots)?
Try convincing Akiva Goldsman of that...
It doesn't really matter when the series is set IMO, Star Trek to me is just a vehicle for sci-fi stories. The benefit of a TOS-set series is that it provides immediate audience interest via Kirk/Spock/Uhura et al, and makes it "safer" in the eyes of modern executives than saying "let's make a post-Voyager series with a new ship, new captain, new alien species for a crewmember, etc".
What I'm not suggesting is that they just refer endlessly back to existing material, as SNW sometimes slips into doing. That's what I mean by replicating TOS' tone and structure - it'd ideally be a new story each week without much, if any, connective tissue between them.
Yeah, I know it's not a popular idea but I wish they'd do something new regardless of the era, like have a show that's primarily based on a planet (which Starfleet Academy could have been, but increasingly seems like it's not going to be).
I mean, what the fuck is the point?
Look at how many people begged for that Star Trek Legacy show and that went absolutely no where. Every youtube channel in the world was building hype for it. Instead we got Section 31 and fucking Future Academy. These are not executives who listen to fans. They're executives who tell fans what they should want and then blame them for not wanting it. I'm kind of done. SNW really should have got 7 seasons. Was it perfect? No. But it was light years ahead of any other modern Trek. If they couldn't get that to work then there's no chance of them producing anything I'd like.
Look at how many people begged for that Star Trek Legacy show and that went absolutely no where. Every youtube channel in the world was building hype for it. Instead we got Section 31 and fucking Future Academy. These are not executives who listen to fans. They're executives who tell fans what they should want and then blame them for not wanting it. I'm kind of done. SNW really should have got 7 seasons. Was it perfect? No. But it was light years ahead of any other modern Trek. If they couldn't get that to work then there's no chance of them producing anything I'd like.
I don't see the logic of that, given that we've had multiple successful Trek series with new characters and settings over the past four decades. It's not as if it's an untested gamble.
It doesn't make sense to me either, but it does seem to be the way that modern television often works. Discovery had a built-in connection to the Mirror Universe and Spock and later The Cage, Picard is obviously based around the character of Picard (and also Data, Seven, etc), and Strange New Worlds is deeply intertwined with TOS. I've not seen much of Lower Decks or Prodigy, but I understand the latter makes heavy use of Voyager.
I'd much prefer an entirely original ship, captain, and crew too, but if the concept of a TOS reboot is what it takes to get a new episodic Star Trek series with otherwise-original ideas greenlit, it seems like a worthy enough tradeoff, especially given the superb SNW cast ready to take the roles.
But none of those is simply a retelling or continuation of a previous series (except for Picard seasons 2 & especially 3 systematically abandoning all the new stuff introduced in season 1 in favor of continuity callbacks galore). They incorporated some familiar elements alongside a lot of new characters, ideas, and storylines, the same way that DS9 built on a lot of TNG elements like Cardassia, Bajor, the O'Briens, and eventually Worf but was still primarily a new show.
If it's viable to get an entirely (or mostly) original series greenlit then I'm all for it, but it feels like a lot of long-running franchises nowadays are lumbered with legacy material. Even Discovery ended up with its second season being in part a sequel to The Cage (heavily featuring Spock, Pike, and a visit to Talos IV) and with Section 31 as the antagonists.
I suppose it could be the case that some modern writers like Goldsman really do just hugely enjoy self-referential callback stuff and make it a key part of any show pitch they make, but I've long wondered if it's at least partly an easier way to get things commissioned - the same thing seems to have happened in gaming in recent years.
I suppose it could be the case that some modern writers like Goldsman really do just hugely enjoy self-referential callback stuff and make it a key part of any show pitch they make, but I've long wondered if it's at least partly an easier way to get things commissioned - the same thing seems to have happened in gaming in recent years.
Of course, it is a very common tendency in franchise media today to rely far too heavily on legacy material. I'm just saying that in the case of Star Trek, there's enough of a track record of doing successful new series that I don't see the logic in expecting executives to think the only safe path is to redo an old series entirely. Again: even the series you mention that do incorporate some legacy material are not exclusively driven by it, but are primarily driven by their new characters and storylines. Even legacy characters are still advanced in new directions. None of them is the same thing as a straight-up remake.
