ENT, SNW and TOS are the same timeline. There.
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And since the events of Star Trek First Contact lead to events in ENT, and FC itself involved events from both TNG and DS9...
It's all a temporal causality loop.
Always has been.
Always has been.
Nope, it's still the TOS timeline -- the Prime Timeline.
They use it sparingly.
Kirk time travels twice before he encounters the Guardian of Forever.
Though he seems to have forgotten it by the next time they get stuck in the past.The Naked Time said:
Tomorrow IS Yesterday said:
Nothing said in either episode indicates that Starfleet hasn't encountered other time travel methods prior to The Naked Time. ST: Enterprise did some time travel episodes as did DISCO, so its not a new thing in-universe by TOS.
it’s not as if they had access to a starship in those occasions.
They were literally on a Starship in "Tomorrow is Yesterday". That's the next time travel episode after "The Naked Time". Spock essentially discovers "the slingshot" twice.
“Naked” used the cold intermix procedure.
I remember there was a set of fanon blueprints from the early 80s for a timeship that used the cold intermix method.
Assignment Earth the Enterprise was explicitly tasked with going back in time for historical research so by then (at the absolutely latest) there are established departments dealing with temporal stuff and an accepted method of doing it.
Even if it was in the test bed phase during SNW it is far from accurate to say that they didn't know anything about it yet
Even if it was in the test bed phase during SNW it is far from accurate to say that they didn't know anything about it yet
You could say that in TOS, time travel was all new and invented in "The Naked Time" but in SNW there are already Temporal Prime Directives before it. Perhaps the SNW version of TOS is what we saw in "Ephraim and Dot", with the SNW ship, a window in sickbay by Khan etc.
It's Romulan cloaking devices all over again. Only more messy.
It's Romulan cloaking devices all over again. Only more messy.
I don’t remember the exact wording but I didn’t get the impression he was discovering it during that episode.
I was thinking about when they got stuck in Sarpeidon’s past or maybe in the 20th century Earth.
By the way, as written originally, Naked Time and Tomorrow is Yeaterday were a single double episode, with the cliffhanger being once they traveled to the past.
To be fair, the Temporal Prime Directive La'an is following came from/was explained to her by a Temporal Agent from the 29th Centiry.
Also, we don't know for a fact the agent was from the 29th century. She could have been from the 26th, 27th, or 28th century.
Or possibly from the 22nd century and embroiled in some complex trans-temporal shenanigans...
Archer was involved in some time travel hijinks in the 22nd Century. Based on his personal experience I’m sure Admiral Archer and later President Archer put some rules in place for Starfleet and the Federation. All Spock did in the 23rd century was discover two ways to transform a Starship into a Timeship.
Kirk was aware of it and the time travel regulations in "Subspace Rhapsody" which is very much at odds with time travel being unheard of in TOS "Naked Time"To be fair, the Temporal Prime Directive La'an is following came from/was explained to her by a Temporal Agent from the 29th Centiry.
That's because the version of The Naked Time that we're familiar with was from before the alterations made in the temporal cold war as established in Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow. There may even be a self-fulfilling causality loop here. The discoveries made by Kirk and the Enterprise in The Naked Time actually leading to the temporal cold war.
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Given the events of ENT a century earlier, I don't see why time travel would be unheard of in the 23rd century - but the rest...he seemed to be following/responding to La'an's lead when she brought it up.