STILL no nuTrek novels?

[F. King Daniel]

A very tired subject, I know. And I'm sorry. But what is the freakin' hold up with the nuTrek novels?? I've heard "they can't do sequels, only prequels" in the past - so why is there an ongoing comic book series and a videogame on the way, all set between STXI and XII? Why are we still only getting young adult Starfleet Academy prequel mini-novels?

I'm starting to think maybe Pocket Books pissed off JJ and co. by planning and having post-STXI novels written without Bad Robot's involvement. There has to be a reason why "grown up" novels are the only medium missing out on post-STXI adventures.

 

[Quinton O'Connor]

I don't get it either. And it bothers the heck outta me.

 

[DimesDan]

I had no intention of buying these, plus I have more significant things to worry about than if a couple of books will be released or not, I'm sure there are reasons, I'm sure the authors or editors or someone actually knows why they have been pulled, but it's not something to get worked up over and certainly not something to be worried about.

Of course this is just my opinion and others may vary.

 

[Quinton O'Connor]

I wouldn't say he's worried. More like, understandably confused.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I had no intention of buying these,

Good for you, but the STXI novelization was Trek's first New York Times bestseller in ages. There's definitely a market for them.

plus I have more significant things to worry about than if a couple of books will be released or not, I'm sure there are reasons, I'm sure the authors or editors or someone actually knows why they have been pulled, but it's not something to get worked up over and certainly not something to be worried about.

Who's getting worked up or worried? I just see that the old excuses for the lack of nuTrek novels no longer hold up in the face of ongoing adventures in other mediums. And I'm curious why, as a fan of Trek novels, "my" medium is being ignored so.

It's probably something we'll only learn the truth about much later on. I wonder if it's something stupid, like JJ picked up a Trek novel at random, hated it, judged them all by that example and decreed that there shall be no adult nuTrek books

 

[Warp Coil]

It's possible that, once the screenplay for Trek XII is completed and filming is underway, Bad Robot and Pocket Books can revisit the four planned novels. I think that part of the reason why these novels were shelved is because Abrams & co. don't want any continuity errors between their movies and the books. Once they know what Trek XII is about, they can go back through the books to see if there are any conflicts that need to be changed to better match what will happen on-screen.

If we're lucky, maybe they'll finally see the light of day sometime in 2012 or 2013 when the film is released?

 

[JD]

A very tired subject, I know. And I'm sorry. But what is the freakin' hold up with the nuTrek novels?? I've heard "they can't do sequels, only prequels" in the past - so why is there an ongoing comic book series and a videogame on the way, all set between STXI and XII? Why are we still only getting young adult Starfleet Academy prequel mini-novels?

I'm starting to think maybe Pocket Books pissed off JJ and co. by planning and having post-STXI novels written without Bad Robot's involvement. There has to be a reason why "grown up" novels are the only medium missing out on post-STXI adventures.

I think the reason that stuff has been able to go through is because at least one of the "Supreme Court" members is actively involved with that stuff, while they weren't really involved with the books. I do agree that it is a little annoying though, for the very reasons that you've mentioned in the thread. I'm gonna hold out hope that we will someday get these books until we are told point blank it's not gonna happen. But then again, I guess there are probably still people saying the same about The God Thing, and it's been "around" since the '70s.

 

[Therin of Andor]

A very tired subject, I know. And I'm sorry. But what is the freakin' hold up with the nuTrek novels??

When the four books were put on hold, we were told not to expect them anytime soon. JJ's people want to be paving the way with their new timeline. I anticipate no movement on the novel sequel tie-in front until at least the next movie is released. Perhaps then, the four books on hold might be permitted to be revised (if necessary) and ensured they are set between film #1 and film #2. Or maybe they'll wait for the film trilogy to be completed?

This kind of thing happened towards the end of DC Comics' run on TNG, IIRC. They were asked to slow their pace a little and let the canonical productions lead the way.

 

[Captain Robert April]

So, maybe by 2020, those books might see the light of day.

My disdain for this whole side of the franchise is a matter of record, but shelving the books was an idiotic move. Between this and Round 2 deciding, for unknown but probably similar reasons for the books getting the kibosh, to not put out a model of the JJPrise, it seems like they're doing everything in their power to undermine any attempt to market this thing.

 

[BillJ]

I continue to be disappointed that the 'Abramsverse Four' haven't been released.

 

[Therin of Andor]

shelving the books was an idiotic move.

If they came out when originally scheduled (ie. before a sequel script had been firmed up), and the next movie totally clashed with things suggested in the novels, you can bet there'd be plenty of fans screaming, "Well that was an idiotic move! Why didn't JJ make them wait?"

to not put out a model of the JJPrise

Huh? I have a large toy ship from Playmates and another smaller model of the ship that came with the DVD.

 

[BillJ]

If they came out when originally scheduled (ie. before a sequel script had been firmed up), and the next movie totally clashed with things suggested in the novels, you can bet there'd be plenty of fans screaming, "Well that was an idiotic move! Why didn't JJ make them wait?"

I really think you're overblowing people's reactions. It's never been an issue before when comics/novels clash with the on-screen product.

I've got Starfleet: Year One on my bookshelf and the premiere of Enterprise didn't change my enjoyment of it. Nor did The Voyage Home ruin my enjoyment of DC's comic run.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Even if those four cancelled novels are gone for good, what's stopping new ones being written, that conform to Bad Robot's future plans? New comics are being written. A new videogame's being made. Plot conflicts aren't an issue there.

 

[DimesDan]

I wouldn't say he's worried. More like, understandably confused.

Well, from what Kingdaniel has written on the subject, it would seem he is worried about the situation and getting himself worked up about the lack of four books and the lack of information on the subject and from this very comment you certainly are though:

I don't get it either. And it bothers the heck outta me.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Not worked up, nor worried. Curious enough to ask others' opinions in the light of new info which renders the previous assumptions invalid, but that's all.

Stop trying to tell me what I'm thinking because that does annoy me.

 

[The Wormhole]

I believe Abrams and his Cohorts are supervising the upcoming comic series and video game, which explains why they're going ahead.

Don't know why they don't do something similar with novels though.

 

[DimesDan]

Not worked up, nor worried. Curious enough to ask others' opinions in the light of new info which renders the previous assumptions invalid, but that's all.

Stop trying to tell me what I'm thinking because that does annoy me.

For someone who isn't worried about it, you've got a funny way of showing it. Now unless you've articulated yourself incorrectly on the matter and you've given off the wrong impression, I've only based my assessment of "what you're thinking" on what you've written.

 

[BillJ]

Not worked up, nor worried. Curious enough to ask others' opinions in the light of new info which renders the previous assumptions invalid, but that's all.

Stop trying to tell me what I'm thinking because that does annoy me.

For someone who isn't worried about it, you've got a funny way of showing it. Now unless you've articulated yourself incorrectly on the matter and you've given off the wrong impression, I've only based my assessment of "what you're thinking" on what you've written.

What the fuck is your problem? It's just a question, this is a message board... seems like a natural combination to me.

 

[JWolf]

Dimesdan, I suggest you take a break from the forum and get yourself together. You seem to having some sort of issue that's causing you to be a bit abrupt.

Please don't take this as an insult. Instead take this as friendly advice.

 

[JD]

Even if those four cancelled novels are gone for good, what's stopping new ones being written, that conform to Bad Robot's future plans? New comics are being written. A new videogame's being made. Plot conflicts aren't an issue there.

I believe Abrams and his Cohorts are supervising the upcoming comic series and video game, which explains why they're going ahead.

Don't know why they don't do something similar with novels though.

It's especially annoying since the writers have said that they're big fans of the books (or at least older ones, I'm not sure how up to date they are). You'd think if they are that big of fans that they'd be eager to get some Abramsverse novels out there.