STID realistic?

[F. King Daniel]

If STID was true to the canon of realism of the previous films, a mentally deranged crew member would have fired the torpedoes, they would have reached Qo'noS in 3 seconds at half inpulse. The Klingons would have detected the Enterprise by picking GATT's positronic energy, forcing them to hide in the gravity well of a planetoid obscuring their warp signature. Kirk would have driven over the planetoid with a space buggy to the torpedo site to collect its quaternionic radiation in a test tube, which he would use to erase the deranged member from the timeline and stop the war, and Admiral Marcus would have been revealed to be a Klingon using the radiation to smooth his forehead, de-age and augment himself and Carol, who is shocked to find out she's a half-Klingon.

Oh, yeah, I almost forgot, the deranged crew member turns out to be an avatar of the AI behind Vengeance's self-operation, which is revealed to have the intelligence of a rebellious three-year old.

You missed out, "and they time travel at the end undoing the whole thing."

 

[Balrog]

Troi re: Salt Vampire - "I feel deep pain, loneliness and hunger."

Riker - "Oh, sorry - That's me."

 

[SeerSGB]

Troi re: Salt Vampire - "I feel deep pain, loneliness and hunger."

Riker - "Oh, sorry - That's me."

Riker: Look at it's mouth...Captain, allow me to "neogiate" with this poor creature.

 

[Balrog]

Picard - "Let's have Ensign Crusher negotiate."

 

[YellowSubmarine]

You missed out, "and they time travel at the end undoing the whole thing."

"Twice."

 

[Nerys Myk]

WORF: Captain, let me battle this....thing.

PICARD: No, you're a Starfleet officer!!!!! It's not how we do things. Senior staff in my ready room to discuss this.

Salt Vampire continues to kill crew members.

 

[Balrog]

Picard at staff meeting - "Mr. LaForge, can we stop this creature with something Interplexing? I like saying the word 'Interplexing'."

 

[Timewalker]

Ohhhh... The writers should have appeased the vast population of volcanologist Star Trek fans in the audience with an obscure fact. All 47 of them...

Got it.

It's hardly an obscure fact that when you combine sulfur gases with water, you get acid.

Given that Greg Cox addressed this issue in his Khan novels, I'm assuming he thinks it's worth mentioning (and I'm quite sure that Mr. Cox has more than 47 fans).

All I could think of when nuKirk and nuMcCoy jumped into the water was that they were really jumping into acid... and nobody mentioned that fact.

 

[SeerSGB]

Ohhhh... The writers should have appeased the vast population of volcanologist Star Trek fans in the audience with an obscure fact. All 47 of them...

Got it.

It's hardly an obscure fact that when you combine sulfur gases with water, you get acid.

Given that Greg Cox addressed this issue in his Khan novels, I'm assuming he thinks it's worth mentioning (and I'm quite sure that Mr. Cox has more than 47 fans).

All I could think of when nuKirk and nuMcCoy jumped into the water was that they were really jumping into acid... and nobody mentioned that fact.

Or if the writers did think of it, it was disregarded (rightly so) as being unneeded and unimportant to the over all story they were telling.

 

[Balrog]

It's hardly an obscure fact that when you combine sulfur gases with water, you get acid.

Given that Greg Cox addressed this issue in his Khan novels, I'm assuming he thinks it's worth mentioning (and I'm quite sure that Mr. Cox has more than 47 fans).

All I could think of when nuKirk and nuMcCoy jumped into the water was that they were really jumping into acid... and nobody mentioned that fact.

Wow.

How'd you like Gravity?

 

[Franklin]

Ohhhh... The writers should have appeased the vast population of volcanologist Star Trek fans in the audience with an obscure fact. All 47 of them...

Got it.

It's hardly an obscure fact that when you combine sulfur gases with water, you get acid.

Given that Greg Cox addressed this issue in his Khan novels, I'm assuming he thinks it's worth mentioning (and I'm quite sure that Mr. Cox has more than 47 fans).

All I could think of when nuKirk and nuMcCoy jumped into the water was that they were really jumping into acid... and nobody mentioned that fact.

Um, had the volcano actually erupted yet? At least enough to create massive lava flows into the ocean that would acidify the nearby water?

Oh, and this from the USGS in response to FAQ about the behavior of volcanoes in movies:

Q: Can lakes near volcanoes become acidic enough to be dangerous to people?
A: Yes. Crater lakes atop volcanoes are typically the most acid, with pH values as low as 0.1 (very strong acid). Normal lake waters, in contrast, have relatively neutral pH values near 7.0. The crater lake at El Chichon volcano in Mexico had a pH of 0.5 in 1983 and Mount Pinatubo's crater lake had a pH of 1.9 in 1992. The acid waters of these lakes are capable of causing burns to human skin but are unlikely to dissolve metal quickly. Gases from magma that dissolve in lake water to form such acidic brews include carbon dioxide, sulfur dioxide, hydrogen sulfide, hydrogen chloride, and hydrogen fluoride. However, the movie's rapidly formed acidic lake capable of dissolving an aluminum boat in a matter of minutes is unrealistic.

The movie mentioned in passing in the above quote is Dante's Peak.

It takes time for the water to acidify. And, we're talking about relatively small crater lakes, not stuff being blown or flowing into an entire ocean (which hadn't happened, anyway).

Full link: http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/about/faq/faqmovie.php

 

[Nerys Myk]

Ohhhh... The writers should have appeased the vast population of volcanologist Star Trek fans in the audience with an obscure fact. All 47 of them...

Got it.

It's hardly an obscure fact that when you combine sulfur gases with water, you get acid.

Given that Greg Cox addressed this issue in his Khan novels, I'm assuming he thinks it's worth mentioning (and I'm quite sure that Mr. Cox has more than 47 fans).

All I could think of when nuKirk and nuMcCoy jumped into the water was that they were really jumping into acid... and nobody mentioned that fact.

Novels have an advantage that film and TV do not. An infinite amount of space to explain everything.

 

[Balrog]

Ocean - 1, Volcano - 0

 

[Kemaiku]

That and Nibiru's seismic mechanisms may well be different from Earth's thus partly creating the problem in the first place.

Edit: Sorry, didn't see Franklins post.

 

[SeerSGB]

It's hardly an obscure fact that when you combine sulfur gases with water, you get acid.

Given that Greg Cox addressed this issue in his Khan novels, I'm assuming he thinks it's worth mentioning (and I'm quite sure that Mr. Cox has more than 47 fans).

All I could think of when nuKirk and nuMcCoy jumped into the water was that they were really jumping into acid... and nobody mentioned that fact.

Wow.

How'd you like Gravity?

The one that Degrasse and others have have called out on for faults in its scientific accuracy? The one's basically a special effects fest.

 

[Franklin]

Damn. Keep Degrasse away from Star Trek.

His best Tweet, IMO, "Why anyone is impressed with a zero-G film 45 years after being impressed with 2001: A Space Odyssey." Which was my thought exactly when so many people were oohing and awing over its production values. It's just a cross between 2001 and Apollo 13. Nothing new or groundbreaking that I saw.

And let's not forget that despite his rant, Degrasse says he still enjoyed the movie very much. It's fun to pretend people! It's fun to simply let a story flow over you and not be too bothered by what's real and what isn't. It's all a fantasy, after all. Hah, Wookies and Death Stars and light sabers! Really? (Oh. Wait. That's Star Wars.)

 

[drt]

Ocean - 1, Volcano - 0

Hawaii wouldn't have much of a tourist industry if volcanos in close proximity to an ocean were a big problem

 

[Nerys Myk]

Let me know when its Ocean-11

 

[Franklin]

Let me know when its Ocean-11

Go to your room!

 

[Balrog]

Hopefully you mean the original!