Steve Rogers and Nick Fury in "CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE WINTER SOLDIER"
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That sounds like something Steve Rogers would support.
I thought maybe Rogers was sporting captain's bars in those scene and that showed he had been given a captain's commission after the fight with the assassin.
Steve just wants to serve. If it means getting a bogus commission so he can keep helping to raise money for the war effort, he isn't exactly going to just head back to Brooklyn or some lab for the duration. We saw he had some guilt issues about being a fraud in the eyes of the other soldiers. It all fits together perfectly.
True enough that Kirk's training went very well, too. Until the end, when he blatantly cheated on a major test. What is the basis for the Lt. rank?
Regardless, though, they don't both do the same thing. Kirk doesn't pull off his flashy stunt by himself or even entirely on his own initiative. Without Spock to do the heavy lifting, Earth would've been destroyed. And the most important point is still that they aren't rewarded in the same way, either. Steve's comission is completely in line with what he's proven he can handle. Kirk's is far more demanding and clearly above what he's (so far) shown himself to be capable of.
No, they do not. A job is not a dictatorship. I've yelled at bosses and challenged them when necessary, and was not fired. Employers usually respect those who actually have a pair--who address serious matters with honesty instead of people who run along the walls trying to do nothing other than be frightened lackeys with no voice of their own.
You're being ridiculous--a memo? Request? You cannot accept the fact that Steve Rogers is above and beyond the lackey you so want him to be.
He's more qualified than anyone else in the MCU--knows the value of truth, and would not manipulate those he relies on while trying to do what is morally right...instead of someone else trying to be a chessmaster, only for his shady way of being preventing him from seeing the other side of that shady coin (Hydra) was doing the same thing right under his nose, because the very structure / morally challenged nature of SHIELD allowed Hydra to grow from within. The difference between the two organizations was...messaging.
He was instrumental in saving the world numerous times. Fury would not have been born if not for Rogers' selfless act in stopping the Red Skull / Hydra's plans during WW2. Rogers is the master strategist of the Avengers, as no one else on the team knew how to deal with using a group's capabilities to challenge a threat on the level of that seen in the first Avengers film. His list of positives go on and on, but someone despises the Steve Rogers character for more reasons than exercising his right to challenge Fury. That reason was posted a page back...
I think the government just wanted to keep a close eye on their investment.
How is that Steve's fault? He didn't know about the infiltration.
Rogers was already suspicious of Fury's motives before the Lemurian Star mission, hence his attitude during the conversation.. His "compartmentalizing" charge was a clear comment on behavior/procedures he was aware of for some time.
Of all of the MCU characters, Rogers is the most rational and hardly subject to being used.