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STC Ep. 7: "Embrace The Winds" speculation and discussion....

I don't follow Starship Farragut as closely. I know they planned to move their setting to the movie era, but nothing else. So they would have a new Farragut and the TOS era is to be decommisioned?
It was a nod to our Farragut brothers, their final episode originally having been intended to be already out by now. Unfortunately since it isn't, the line ended up being a possible spoiler....depending on how the final Farragut episode turns out.
 
But it wasn't. Not in the script, not in the direction, not by the actors. The viewer can make his own "head canon" about it, of course.
Fair enough, but as I said given all the other connect-the-dots references can easily lead one to a different conclusion.
 
I don't follow Starship Farragut as closely. I know they planned to move their setting to the movie era, but nothing else. So they would have a new Farragut and the TOS era is to be decommisioned?

Could have sworn I read someplace (after the guidelines were released) that Farragut would NOT be moving into the movie era after their episode "homecoming" was released?
 
I read the same thing on Axa-Monitor when all the fan films were making their announcements in light of the guidelines a few months ago.

I don't think it's really much a spoiler in this episode though; anyone who has followed Farragut's fan films with any attention knew that "Homecoming" would be the final outing in the TOS era.
 
In light of this episode someone should produce a TOS era story with a woman in command of a Constitution-class ship just to nail Janice Lester's coffin shut. She's in command and no one raises an eyebrow.
 
It's not "romance". It's that need for closeness that people crave when they think they're about to die, like Vasquez and Gorman in Aliens.

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It could potentially be romance in light of the supposed romantic feelings between Uhura and Scotty in Star Trek V. This episode did some foreshadowing in other aspects, so I don't think its beyond the pale here to speculate that the Scotty/Uhura scene was a foreshadowing or call out to their interaction in Star Trek V.

Gorman and Vasquez was happening in 'real time', and who's to say that if they hadn't survived the encounter with the aliens that they might not have hooked up, at least once? But in any event, that was 'real time' as opposed to Star Trek Continues which is looking back, from the perch of established Trek history, or rather a good deal of the future for many of the TOS characters has already been written and Star Trek Continues could be seen as working backward as it connects some of the dots.

I personally don't care if it is foreshadowing the relationship or not, however the idea that it could have been-the way it played on the screen and between the actors-is not implausible. I'm perfectly fine with Star Trek Continues or some other fan film taking Uhura's character in a different direction and giving her a rich inner life with romance far beyond the Enterprise, but within the specific context of this episode, and in the general sense of how fan projects-filmed or written-like connecting dots, the set up for a Scotty/Uhura relationship could start here. It might not have been the intention, but that doesn't mean it can't be the interpretation from the audience.
 
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In light of this episode someone should produce a TOS era story with a woman in command of a Constitution-class ship just to nail Janice Lester's coffin shut. She's in command and no one raises an eyebrow.
Yeah, but it wouldn't nail the coffin shut. Nothing ever can; that ship sailed almost 50 years ago. Nor should it. People can't learn from the past, if it's buried.

What it would do, though, is offer a vision, one group's vision, a positive vision, of how Starfleet should look. But the vision offered by "Embracing the Winds" is just as valid, and likely far more topical with respect to our present-day challenges regarding sex discrimination.
 
There was a nice touch in this episode in regard to the boarding party aboard the Hood. First seeing Uhura getting something more to do. And seeing the boarding party wearing Engineering fatigues rather than the usual standard attire, particularly on the female personnel.

The starbase looked nice, too.

The shuttlecraft--in this case the Columbus, NCC-1701/2--looked much nicer than what was done in TOS-R.
 
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I rather like how it adds context / a small arc to the Lolani episode, explaining somewhat why they are trying to avoid a diplomatic incident with the Orions and.. the Tellarites, who bought the slavegirl.
 
I rather like how it adds context / a small arc to the Lolani episode, explaining somewhat why they are trying to avoid a diplomatic incident with the Orions and.. the Tellarites, who bought the slavegirl.
Meh. This episode was really about nothing. We never get any sense of real jeopardy or drama for anyone involved and nothing is resolved.

Rewarching this I was struck by a lot of too cute writing where things need to be explained for the viewer--very TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT like--resulting in characters not talking like real people. TOS rarely had writing like this even in its most disappointing episodes.

And not only was this overly referential to other productions it was referential to other STC episodes--something TOS rarely did. That adds up to a fair bit of cute connect-the-dots dialogue that serves zero purpose in furthering the story.
 
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"But Continues and the script completely miss the mark."

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"Did someone say 'Marc'?"

Neil

Neil, you know me so well.

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That was an excellent review and I agree with every word of it!

I shared this link on another message board.

Thanks, Warped! :D And thanks for sharing as well.

Well don, Ryan! I want Continues' first rate production team to make your version. Spot on commentary/constructive critique.

As outlined in your version- the courtroom/tribunal actually has a raison d'etre.

Thanks!
 
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