(leans back and puffs on obscenely large cigar)
"Yeah, but what's keepin' her name in the trades THIS season, sweetheart?"
STC Ep. 7: "Embrace The Winds" speculation and discussion....
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"Yeah, but what's keepin' her name in the trades THIS season, sweetheart?"
Another thing that went nowhere.
Same with McKennah's Orion inquiries.
This episode was brimming with connect-the-dots fan service stuff in place of a genuinely engaging and substantial story. With this story STC stepped into the very thing I hoped they would stay away from and kept me away from most fan productions and fanfic.
It was STC's attempt at what was called on TNG, Piller Filler — cute bits of character to fill time. However, it's hardly cute or interesting. And McKennah's Orion inquires was to set up the line "It's the 23rd century, anything is possible." Which I guess is the theme of the episode that didn't really resolve whether Starfleet is going to have a woman command a starship.
It's sloppy writing all around.
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That question gets resolved when Saavik whirls around in the captain's chair at the beginning of TWOK.
Um, no. Saavik's not assigned to command any starship. It's not resolved until TVH, though I'm certain there are fans out there somewhere who'd pedantically argue whether Saratoga was a starship.
She's being trained to command a starship. That's the point they're making with that shot and the impact it had at the time.
Of course that's attenuated a bit by the explanation they came up with in this episode. Considerably attenuated, actually.
Any officer might have to assume command in a crisis. It doesn't mean that she was going to be posted as captain of a starship.
Eh, whatevs. Happy Star Trek Day!
We had a triggered feminist (with musical cue!), Tellerite-phobia (and reform-minded Tellerite bashing his own people), Spock being flummoxed by logic while dealing with humans, and fake Hillary Clinton. Otherwise adults having responsible, meaningful discussions of topics which today many people can't even handle without breaking down somehow. I suppose many of the threads touched upon were left open, but I found the construction of the story artful.
Sulu was obviously shoehorned into the start in order to hear about Takei growing up in the Japanese internment camp.
I found Embracing The Winds to live up to the spirit of the title quote. Whether you found it a good Trek episode is your opinion.
You do realize Uhura was a simple Lieutenant and a comm officer. There would have been a number of higher-ranked officers to take the seat ahead of her...
It might have helped tamp down the "Amens" to the ravings of Janice Lester.
It boggles the mind that given all the credit fans are willing to give TOS that some would believe the writers would deliberately and knowingly make such a sexist declaration through the rantings of an obviously bitter and unhinged character. And to the point that the writers of a fan production feel the need to try rationalizing such nonsense.
At a panel discussion this evening after a showing of The Man Trap at NASM, Bjo and John Trimble contended that Robert Bloch's plan was to have all the male principles down on the planet in Catspaw so Uhura could take command, but it was immediately nixed by the network. Not reporting this as fact, merely what was said. Of course she did get to take over in TAS a few years later.
And we are hearing this only now after this issue has been debated for the past fifty years? And this in light of the very same network issuing memos for better roles for minorities and women?
Without substantiation I smell bovine manure.
Boggles the mind? No. Isn't it crystal clear by now that at least some fans disagree with your assessment of how much weight to give the idea? I've already pointed out, to no avail, how it isn't just coming from "the rantings of an obviously bitter and unhinged character." I guess some fans just can't accept that TOS was, in many ways, inexcusably sexist. Silly me, I'd thought that it was going to be a couple of weeks or a month before going another round about how to read TI, and here it's been just a few days....
Sexist? Absolutely. Inexcusably so? I disagree.
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