Starting to get Lost - cos people keep telling me to

[Lonemagpie]

Don't worry- still watching.

"Special" - interesting. I hope it's not going turn out that the island is all in Walt's imagination from the comic book, or something like that... Locke is only partly right that Michael needs to stop treating Walt like a child; at 10 he needs to be treated with the right balance of "as an adult" and "as a child" so they're kind of both wrong. Mind you, he seems to be, what, Damien or something - attracting the bird and the bear...

(Walt needn't worry about not being good at knife-throwing. I'm pretty good at all forms of melee weaponry, except that! It is especially difficult...)

Oh, look- Camille from Bones!

Know the feeling about his car accident. What I don't get, and literally cannot understand (given how this is a US TV drama with a number of characters shown to be capable of violence) is that nobody has killed Sawyer yet. I don't expect the Hobbit fella to do it over the diary, but I'd have expected somebody to. I'd have done it by now...

And, yay, Claire reappears!

 

[RoJoHen]

What I don't get, and literally cannot understand (given how this is a US TV drama with a number of characters shown to be capable of violence) is that nobody has killed Sawyer yet. I don't expect the Hobbit fella to do it over the diary, but I'd have expected somebody to. I'd have done it by now...

But he hasn't really DONE anything worth killing over. The character may occasionally be violent and have shady pasts, but they don't just go around murdering people for being annoying.

 

[Lonemagpie]

What I don't get, and literally cannot understand (given how this is a US TV drama with a number of characters shown to be capable of violence) is that nobody has killed Sawyer yet. I don't expect the Hobbit fella to do it over the diary, but I'd have expected somebody to. I'd have done it by now...

But he hasn't really DONE anything worth killing over. The character may occasionally be violent and have shady pasts, but they don't just go around murdering people for being annoying.

At the very least you'd think he'd get a solid kicking every week for being a cunt...

 

[Lindley]

Sawyer's a fun character, but he did very little to endear himself to anyone early on.

 

[Lonemagpie]

"Homecoming" - Lots of mystery - what happened to Claire, why does Ethan want her back, etc. Where does Ethan get that superhuman strength? (Oh, I recognized the sound of bolas to start with, and would have ducked)

I like Charlie, especially in his chemistry with Claire.

The correct plan would be to use her as a Judas goat and ambush him - ah, that's what they're doing. They gave a gun to Sawyer? How dumb is that? Four guns? I'd give 'em to Saiyid, Locke, Jack and Kate. Especially since Sawyer clearly doesn't have the sense to keep the right distance.

Well done that Hobbit! Jack's question of "why?" is the dumbest question in history - why the fuck do you think, Jack?! Aside from the chemistry with Claire, the guy killed Charlie earlier... Even if it didn't really take... (Which I'd have referred to if I'd written it, when the threat was made at the start - "You already did that and it didn't work")

Hm, and what's this "black rock" business they're bringing up?

 

[RoJoHen]

Well done that Hobbit! Jack's question of "why?" is the dumbest question in history - why the fuck do you think, Jack?!

Short answer: Jack is a dumbass.

Hm, and what's this "black rock" business they're bringing up?

All in due time, my friend.

 

[Lonemagpie]

Well done that Hobbit! Jack's question of "why?" is the dumbest question in history - why the fuck do you think, Jack?!

Short answer: Jack is a dumbass.

Hm, and what's this "black rock" business they're bringing up?

All in due time, my friend.

Oh, I'm not asking for answers here, just registering that I'd noted the question.

As for Jack being a dumbass - yep, that question and giving Sawyer a gun instead of somebody who'd be responsible are definitely dumbass behaviour.

 

[RoJoHen]

Well, regardless, Jack is still a dumbass.

 

[Lonemagpie]

"Outlaws" - pretty good; nice to finally learn a bit more about why Sawyer's such a twat. I figured that he'd find the wrong guy, but was fairly surprised by the obvious implication of who Robert Patrick was, and more surprised by the part Jack's dad unknowingly played.

If I woke up to find a boar in the tent, it'd be fresh bacon for breakfast, and no mistake...

Liked the "I never" game scene, which drops a few more hints about both Sawyer and Kate - she was married? Saiyid is great; not sure he's the best person to be Charlie's counsellor though, but it seemed to work.

Nice little role for Locke as storyteller (is Locke Obi-Wan or what?).Being a writer a lot of the hints make me want to speculate wildly but not entirely seriously - is the boar the reincarnation of that dead guy? Is the Island some kind of Noah's Ark from the future, from outer space, from God?

Still not really sure why Hurley's in this as he never seems to have anything to do, but I did like his speculation that he'd get got first in the event of villains returning as zombies... So, a pretty damn good episode.

 

[Starbreaker]

Hurley's episode is coming up shortly. You'll see what he's all about. You'll probably be surprised.

I don't consider this a spoiler, so I'm going to go ahead and tell you: this is all actually happening. It's not purgatory, or a dream, or a drug-induced hallucination. Everyone is actually alive and experiencing this.

 

[Hober Mallow]

Hm, and what's this "black rock" business they're bringing up?

This isn't a spoiler: Remember the episode with the French woman? She also mentioned a "black rock..."

I saw that spoiler in the lit forum. It's a doozy... you'll forget about it though.

If I'm guessing right what the spoiler was, it's not really that big a deal. It was the very first spoiler I heard, even before I started watching the series, and it didn't adversely affect my enjoyment of the series, especially since just knowing that doesn't really tell you much of anything. In other words, without the context, the spoilers don't really mean a lot. Even knowing this spoiler, I was still surprised by what happened.

 

[TheGodBen]

Nice little role for Locke as storyteller (is Locke Obi-Wan or what?)

I noticed when rewatching the season that Locke seemed to spend a lot of sub-plots trying to win people over in various ways, such as helping Charlie with his addiction, Helping Boone deal with his feelings for Shannon, his giving Sayid a compass and his talk here with Sawyer. It's not hugely important, but I do wonder if that was the intention of all these scenes.

 

[Lonemagpie]

Hurley's episode is coming up shortly. You'll see what he's all about. You'll probably be surprised.

It's not so much his background as he just doesn't seem to really do anything (a bit like Jin, actually), though he's likeable enough.

I don't consider this a spoiler, so I'm going to go ahead and tell you: this is all actually happening. It's not purgatory, or a dream, or a drug-induced hallucination. Everyone is actually alive and experiencing this.

Unless, of course, the end of season 6 says otherwise!

 

[Lonemagpie]

Hm, and what's this "black rock" business they're bringing up?

This isn't a spoiler: Remember the episode with the French woman? She also mentioned a "black rock...".

I remember- in fact they mentioned in the episode that Saiyid had said she mentioned a black rock. I was just making the comment that I'm curious to see where that'll go.

Come to think of it, there's been no mention of the hatch in the past three episodes either, though there was enough interesting and important stuff going on in them to make me forget about it for the duration!

 

[Delta1]

Regarding Hurley, he is regarded by some as

Spoiler: Hurley

the voice of the audience. He speculates about the island's mysteries, warns the other losties when they're about to do something stupid, compiles lists, etc. He gives voice to the audience's constant state of confusion and is angered by the irrationality of the world he lives in. If he were in the real world and not on the island, he'd be a Lost fan.

That's not much of a spoiler, more like analysis, but it's up to you whether you push the button or not.

 

[Lindley]

Dammit, stop setting up straight lines I can't follow up without spoilers.....

 

[Lonemagpie]

"In Translation" - Not bad but a bit over-padded. We already knew of the Jin/Sun backstory here from their previous episode (with a scene from that repeated here) - but she's hot, and DDK does such amazing acting with just expressions that I don't mind too much. It's a shame, especially seeing how deep their feelings go, that they split up, but I think actually that will probably work well dramatically - together they don't really do anything within the show/group, but individually they can do more. (In fact I wonder if this was a plot twist decided upon after seeing a bunch of earlier episodes in the can, with exactly that aim in mind.)

Spotted Hurley getting out of a limo on a TV being watched by another character- I'm guessing he's going to turn out to be some sort of internet millionaire or something. Surprised at the identity of the arsonist, but it makes sense...

Saiyid seems to have gone soft for this episode, but I'm sure it won't last. Interesting comment of Locke's, that island is giving everyone a new life (it just needs Mr Roarke and "de plane boss!")

So, not bad, but a bit filler-like, and *now* I'm starting to get frustrated that they haven't done anything with the hatch or the monsters for a while...

 

[Lonemagpie]

Nice little role for Locke as storyteller (is Locke Obi-Wan or what?)

I noticed when rewatching the season that Locke seemed to spend a lot of sub-plots trying to win people over in various ways, such as helping Charlie with his addiction, Helping Boone deal with his feelings for Shannon, his giving Sayid a compass and his talk here with Sawyer. It's not hugely important, but I do wonder if that was the intention of all these scenes.

I think he's kind of found his fantasy life- he's now in a group of real adventurers - like in his games - and enjoying it to the hilt.

"Numbers" - Yay, the hatch!

Ah, Hurley's background- lottery winner, huh? That's not too bad. He owned Locke's box company? OK... Interesting that so many of the characters are connected outwith the Island. (interesting, but not necessarily surprising, as it does offer lots more opportunities for drama and interaction)

The mystery of the numbers is also interesting- and the story of how they travelled from the island to Australia to Hurley is interesting, and idea of them being mysteriously transmitted immediately makes me think of Logopolis (a Dr Who serial in which the transmission of series of numbers into the universe is keeping the universe going)

*But*... all this "curse" stuff? Perilously close to a shark-jumping moment. Half this plotline seems to have wandered in from a particularly feeble Lone Gunmen episode.

Ah well... Always nice to see a down and dirty Mira Furlan again. Woof.

Locke and Saiyid remain the best - and what Locke was making was easy enough to guess/work out.

Ah, and back to the hatch for an interesting cliffhanger...

 

[Lindley]

At the end of the day, whether or not Hurley is cursed is less important than whether or not he believes he is.

 

[TheGodBen]

Mildly interesting side-note: a few weeks after Numbers had its first play in the Ireland the Irish lottery numbers were 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and... 24. The right numbers, just in the wrong order. What's even more coincidental is that that draw was on the Saturday before Numbers first aired in the UK.

I think he's kind of found his fantasy life- he's now in a group of real adventurers - like in his games - and enjoying it to the hilt.

Well, when I rewatched the first season it was mid-way through season 3 airing, so I knew more about the direction his character took and his motivations. Watching Locke trying to build bridges with the rest of the losties made me realise that the writers really did have an idea of this guy right from the beginning. It makes even more sense in hindsight. But as I said, I might have been reading too much into it.