How long was the Excelsior class starship Repulse in service with Starfleet, I'm assuming it was decommissioned sometime during TNG?
James
James
Starship Repulse
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James, I hate to say this, but I'm beginning to notice an odd pattern of RTFM-style questions in your started topics. The best answer in this case comes from Memory Alpha:
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/USS_Repulse
As for novel references, there's Memory Beta:
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/USS_Repulse_(NCC-2544)
I recommend you also bookmark the home pages of both sites and save yourself the hassle of starting new thread posts; I suspect 95% of the information you'll get from TrekBBS will be more readily available at one of them.
The only thing we could possibly add--by way of conjecture--is that the low registry number suggests a ship from the late 2290s, not far behind Excelsior.
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/USS_Repulse
As for novel references, there's Memory Beta:
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/USS_Repulse_(NCC-2544)
I recommend you also bookmark the home pages of both sites and save yourself the hassle of starting new thread posts; I suspect 95% of the information you'll get from TrekBBS will be more readily available at one of them.
The only thing we could possibly add--by way of conjecture--is that the low registry number suggests a ship from the late 2290s, not far behind Excelsior.
One might be tempted to speculate that the Starfleet people who painted the shuttle with NCC-2544 on it forgot to add the first 4, and that the Repulse actually falls nicely in line with all those other 42000-range Excelsiors. 
OTOH, it's by no means impossible that Starfleet built a bunch of Excelsiors when it finished NCC-2000. Sure, the lead ship was something of an experiment - but Starfleet seemed dead certain about the success of that experiment, and indeed had finished the "prototype" vessel to operational standard, with guns and tractor beams and all. (Or at least we saw the gun emplacements, and Stiles seemed to think he had a means of stopping Kirk's ship without killing him.) So half a dozen of these "experiments" might have been finished in parallel, back when registries in the 2000 range were all the vogue.
Whether these first generation ships would be capable of being refitted for meaningful service beyond the 2360s... One wonders. But several ships with 4-digit registries reported casualties in the Dominion War, obviously without being completely lost. So the 23rd century apparently still had something to offer to the front lines.
Timo Saloniemi
OTOH, it's by no means impossible that Starfleet built a bunch of Excelsiors when it finished NCC-2000. Sure, the lead ship was something of an experiment - but Starfleet seemed dead certain about the success of that experiment, and indeed had finished the "prototype" vessel to operational standard, with guns and tractor beams and all. (Or at least we saw the gun emplacements, and Stiles seemed to think he had a means of stopping Kirk's ship without killing him.) So half a dozen of these "experiments" might have been finished in parallel, back when registries in the 2000 range were all the vogue.
Whether these first generation ships would be capable of being refitted for meaningful service beyond the 2360s... One wonders. But several ships with 4-digit registries reported casualties in the Dominion War, obviously without being completely lost. So the 23rd century apparently still had something to offer to the front lines.
Timo Saloniemi
He's being doing this since his user handle was JDW. I recall making a similar suggestion about Google and wikis once, but apparently it was not taken to heart.
Of course, there are perks to having a high rank on the BBS, and the only way to get that rank is to post a lot. So why not post stuff that at the very least gets other people to consult Memory Alpha, and perhaps cross-check from other sources and possibly go and correct the MA mistakes? It's better than just bulking up on polls about the best or worst or yellowest TOS episode ever...
Timo Saloniemi
Timo Saloniemi
Perks!?! No one told me about any perks!
<starts looking for threads to post in>
Oh, and James, yeah, based on a quick perusal of thread topics you have created recently, I have to say:
Google = friend
All you had to do is tell me to watch the DS9 episode that referanced the Repulse, of course there's a problem with that, they took DS9 off the air again!
The reason I posted my question, I was reading about the battlecruisers Hood, Renown and Repulse last night and was curious about the fate of the starship Repulse.
Sorry if my questions on the BBS aggravate, tell you what, if they continue to do so don't answer them
!
James
The reason I posted my question, I was reading about the battlecruisers Hood, Renown and Repulse last night and was curious about the fate of the starship Repulse.
Sorry if my questions on the BBS aggravate, tell you what, if they continue to do so don't answer them
!James
Well, you an google as well as we can. Or at least learn to. If your question had some qualifiers like:
"I have searched and cannot find any information"
or
"The 2 information sources I have found give conflicting information"
You might get a better response. But just posting questions on here that you can answer yourself with a modest search in most cases, and using a new thread to do it each time, is not going to be well received. We are not your research staff. We are a debate team.
"I have searched and cannot find any information"
or
"The 2 information sources I have found give conflicting information"
You might get a better response. But just posting questions on here that you can answer yourself with a modest search in most cases, and using a new thread to do it each time, is not going to be well received. We are not your research staff. We are a debate team.
if you dont ask you dont learn
i normally try google or somethng similar but to be fair it is sometimes quicker to ask here where someone alreadys knows.
by the way this may sound daft but dose RTFM mean?
i normally try google or somethng similar but to be fair it is sometimes quicker to ask here where someone alreadys knows.
by the way this may sound daft but dose RTFM mean?
Plecostomus
Commodore
...such as FUCKING.
As in "READ THE FUCKING MANUAL!"
Often heard in server rooms and machine shops during periods of hardware induced downtime.
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At the risk for enraging other veteran TrekBBS users further, I find myself taking James Wright's side on this one; a fast typer with good Trek knowledge can outpace a search on Memories Alpha or Beta (or Google, for that matter). The likelihood of an understandable answer coming fairly quickly is rather high, and lots of times good discussions can be spurred about what sources conflict or whatever (as has been mentioned in prior posts in this very thread). And let's face it - we're Trek fans, we like knowing stuff and we like showing that. If that wasn't the case no one would break the Lt. rank here.
There have been a number of times where I've been shot down on this for an answer being not correct 'enough' or a hypothesis being 'just plain wrong.' It'll happen, none of us are Cmdr. Data. But lots of those times the tone used made me feel like I'm wasting everyone's time and my own by simply participating; it becomes generally discouraging and takes the fun out of sites like this. (Now watch as someone else looks for my previous posts and the their replies and shoots down that claim).
I generally don't take part in message boards and other Internet communities (I've only been on Facebook less than a year, to put it in perspective), but I love Trek that much. What I don't like is when ego's clash and I'm made to feel some how not 'Trekkie' enough because I'm unclear on a simple fact and would rather get another human's opinion directly rather than consult software or some anonymous wiki-writer.
If I've just thrown turds into the ceiling fan, so be it.
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At the risk for enraging other veteran TrekBBS users further, I find myself taking James Wright's side on this one; a fast typer with good Trek knowledge can outpace a search on Memories Alpha or Beta (or Google, for that matter). The likelihood of an understandable answer coming fairly quickly is rather high, and lots of times good discussions can be spurred about what sources conflict or whatever (as has been mentioned in prior posts in this very thread). And let's face it - we're Trek fans, we like knowing stuff and we like showing that. If that wasn't the case no one would break the Lt. rank here.
There have been a number of times where I've been shot down on this for an answer being not correct 'enough' or a hypothesis being 'just plain wrong.' It'll happen, none of us are Cmdr. Data. But lots of those times the tone used made me feel like I'm wasting everyone's time and my own by simply participating; it becomes generally discouraging and takes the fun out of sites like this. (Now watch as someone else looks for my previous posts and the their replies and shoots down that claim).
I generally don't take part in message boards and other Internet communities (I've only been on Facebook less than a year, to put it in perspective), but I love Trek that much. What I don't like is when ego's clash and I'm made to feel some how not 'Trekkie' enough because I'm unclear on a simple fact and would rather get another human's opinion directly rather than consult software or some anonymous wiki-writer.
If I've just thrown turds into the ceiling fan, so be it.
//End.Rant
The Repulse, according to the Book Vendetta was able to use a warp pulse through the deflector to shoot a Borg cube, pretty cool for an Excelsior class star ship.
I think it would be cool to put a galaxy class star ship warp drive into a Excelsior Starship. That thign would be dangerously cool overpowered.
I think it would be cool to put a galaxy class star ship warp drive into a Excelsior Starship. That thign would be dangerously cool overpowered.
One might be tempted to speculate that the Starfleet people who painted the shuttle with NCC-2544 on it forgot to add the first 4, and that the Repulse actually falls nicely in line with all those other 42000-range Excelsiors.
OTOH, it's by no means impossible that Starfleet built a bunch of Excelsiors when it finished NCC-2000. Sure, the lead ship was something of an experiment - but Starfleet seemed dead certain about the success of that experiment, and indeed had finished the "prototype" vessel to operational standard, with guns and tractor beams and all. (Or at least we saw the gun emplacements, and Stiles seemed to think he had a means of stopping Kirk's ship without killing him.) So half a dozen of these "experiments" might have been finished in parallel, back when registries in the 2000 range were all the vogue.
Whether these first generation ships would be capable of being refitted for meaningful service beyond the 2360s... One wonders. But several ships with 4-digit registries reported casualties in the Dominion War, obviously without being completely lost. So the 23rd century apparently still had something to offer to the front lines.
Timo Saloniemi
The USS Excelsior was verbally mentioned in TNG’s S7 “Interface”. The identity of the USS Excelsior in the TNG-era is up to debate since it’s registry wasn’t mentioned. I guess the original NCC-2000 could still be around in 2370, having survived over 80 years of service. I figure Starfleet would eventually retire Excelsior and place her in the fleet museum.
And then there's Stargazer, NCC-2893. If we assume the Constellation was intended to help phase out the Constitutions (taking over missions too dangerous for the Mirandas but too mundane for the sophisticated Excelsiors) then Stargazer could easily have been in service while the Enterprise-A was shooting down gaseous anomalies. If not earlier, considering the look of her bridge.
And would probably cause the ship to explode.
And would probably cause the ship to explode.
Not likely if executed properly.
Voyager was essentially a downsized Galaxy class ... identical in every respect apart from it's size/torpedo compliment.
The technology in the Excelsiors would have to be adapted to work with new technology ... simple as that.
It would prolong ship's service in the fleet overall instead of resorting to scrapping it and making a new ship altogether.
They did this with the Lakota. It was fully refitted to go toe to toe with the Defiant (one of the most powerful ships of it's time).
That's a pretty good engineering feat if you ask me since you were able to bring a century old ship to contemporary combat readiness.
Besides, SF ships were designed to last over a century ... so one would think their technology would have to allow for old ships to be brought to the latest standard even though production of those old designs would not be in effect 100 years later.
True, you'd have new ship designs by then, but if there's still life in the old ships to upgrade them and bring them on par with others of the time-frame they are located in, then there's no problem.
Just scrap them after they reached their full service cycle.
However ... ships made in the late 24th century might very well survive 200 years into the future and still be combat capable vessels that can go toe to toe with some of the most up to date vessels.
