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Starship Registries

James Wright

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Currently what is the highest known star fleet registry, which starship class carries it?
Has a Federation starship ever had a six digit registry?
 
The prototype USS Prometheus (NX-59650) might be the highest we've seen in the 24th century.

Voyager had a higher registry - NCC-74656.

Interestingly, according to Memory Alpha, Prometheus also carried the registration NX-74913 on all the Okudagrams, but due to a mix-up NX-59650 ended up on the CGI model. The higher digit seems to make more sense, considering it's a vessel built and launched after Voyager was commissioned.

I don't know any higher registry numbers than Voyager's unfortunately, but we have to seen at least one. (Are registry numbers shown next to the ships, including USS Archer, on the screen in Nemesis for instance?)
 
It always comes up that a registry # might be lower than another because that ship was planned before another.

They could've dreamed up the Prometheus before Voyager/Intrepid class.
 
(Are registry numbers shown next to the ships, including USS Archer, on the screen in Nemesis for instance?)

Yep.

USS Intrepid, NCC-74600 (class ship for Intrepid class)
USS Galaxy, NCC-70637 (class ship for Galaxy class)
USS Valiant, NCC-75418 (unknown class)
USS Aries, NCC-45167 (Renaissance class)
USS Nova, NCC-73515 (class ship for Nova class)
USS Hood, NCC-42296 (Excelsior class)
USS Archer, NCC-44278 (unknown class)
 
Unfortunately, Star Trek has always made a mess of registration numbers. The one that really takes the cake is the USS Constellation from the original series. It ended up NCC-1017 because all they had to work with was the decal numbers that came with the AMT USS Enterprise model kit! :lol:
 
^ Apparently it never occurred to them to use NCC-1710...

Or to simply have the Constellation have no registry number (i.e. have the number be shot off as part of the battle damage).
 
^ Apparently it never occurred to them to use NCC-1710...

Or to simply have the Constellation have no registry number (i.e. have the number be shot off as part of the battle damage).

I doubt anyone involved in the making of TOS could have imagined the following it would get in their wildest dreams. I'm sure they would have been more careful with detail like that if they had known their creation would practically become a religion.

There's no excuse with the later series though. They should have gotten stuff like registration numbers right.
 
^ If they'd done the thing with the battle damage, there'd be no need for detail. Just rip the bit off the saucer where the number would be...

Or at the very least, TOS-R could have fixed the number.
 
^ If they'd done the thing with the battle damage, there'd be no need for detail. Just rip the bit off the saucer where the number would be...

Or at the very least, TOS-R could have fixed the number.
Then you'd have people complaining that the registry isn't the same. ;)
 
^ If they'd done the thing with the battle damage, there'd be no need for detail. Just rip the bit off the saucer where the number would be...

Or at the very least, TOS-R could have fixed the number.

TOS-R should have fixed the number. Problem is, there are so many others that are screwed up, they probably figured it wasn't worth the controversy.
 
^ If they'd done the thing with the battle damage, there'd be no need for detail. Just rip the bit off the saucer where the number would be...

Or at the very least, TOS-R could have fixed the number.

TOS-R should have fixed the number. Problem is, there are so many others that are screwed up, they probably figured it wasn't worth the controversy.

And “James R. Kirk” in WNMHGB? What about “900 years” in TSOG? How far should they have taken this?

The mission of TOS-R was never to “fix” anything that was broken. The mission was to create a pristine image by remastering from original film negatives. This source material did not include the special effects, so the special effects had to be replaced. That’s all.

Had they started down the road of fixing mistakes, it would have created all kinds of controversies and headaches that they had no desire to deal with, and almost inevitably they would have “fixed” a mistake that was treksplained by later canon material and in the process “broken” it.
 
I suppose you could argue that Prometheus has a lower reg than Voyager because it's an NX and not an NCC.
When the class goes into full production they join the proper numbering scheme, but are outside of that in the test phases.

Just shooting from the hip here...
 
It's interesting that several of the new ships we saw in First Contact actually have significantly lower hull registries than the proposed NCC-70637 for the USS Galaxy:

Norway-class USS Budapest NCC-64923
Steamrunner-class USS Appalacia NCC-52136
Saber-class USS Yeager NCC-61947[highlight]*[/highlight]
Akira-class USS Thunderchild NCC-63549

It could be argued that none of these ships or designs are actually newer than the Galaxy-class, but simply weren't seen around the Enterprise-D during TNG.

Another possibility is that they were ships proposed and assigned hull registries prior to the Galaxy-class but not built until afterward.


[highlight]*[/highlight]There was a second USS Yeager of unknown design seen in a DS9 episode with the hull registry NCC-65674 (it was a kitbash of the Voyager and a rearrangement of its registry).
 
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I suppose you could argue that Prometheus has a lower reg than Voyager because it's an NX and not an NCC.
When the class goes into full production they join the proper numbering scheme, but are outside of that in the test phases.

Just shooting from the hip here...

Excelsior kept 2000 from NX to NCC.
 
^ If they'd done the thing with the battle damage, there'd be no need for detail. Just rip the bit off the saucer where the number would be...

Or at the very least, TOS-R could have fixed the number.

TOS-R should have fixed the number. Problem is, there are so many others that are screwed up, they probably figured it wasn't worth the controversy.

And “James R. Kirk” in WNMHGB? What about “900 years” in TSOG? How far should they have taken this?

The mission of TOS-R was never to “fix” anything that was broken. The mission was to create a pristine image by remastering from original film negatives. This source material did not include the special effects, so the special effects had to be replaced. That’s all.

Had they started down the road of fixing mistakes, it would have created all kinds of controversies and headaches that they had no desire to deal with, and almost inevitably they would have “fixed” a mistake that was treksplained by later canon material and in the process “broken” it.

Actually, they were considering correcting "James R Kirk" but ultimately didn't only because they ran out of time.

And while the original mandate of TOSR may have been restoration, they went beyond that when they began replacing recycled ship designs and locations with new designs and images. Things like the Wodin becoming one of those automated freighters from TAS, Flint's castle being completely redone, and most especially turning the starbase in The Ultimate Computer into Starbase Vanguard from the books (as in same design, the starbase isn't actually Vanguard). Also, the space hippies in The Way to Eden are no longer flying a Tholian ship.

Then there's other things. The planet the starbase was on in Court Martial now had a lot of orbital traffic. In Arena the Gorn blinks and we see a ship design for them.

Also, when we saw other Constitution class ships in TOS the registry was never visible, but TOSR created new registries for them. Or in the case of the Defiant, re-used the one it had in those Enterprise episodes.

TOSR very much fixed a lot.
 
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