Starship design in Star Trek

[C.E. Evans]

To me, the Klingon Bird of Prey was inspired by the earlier Romulan one, or perhaps a later model. In TOS, the Romulans were using the Klingon D7 in "The Enterprise Incident," which kind of implied that the Klingons and Romulans were briefly allied against the Federation for awhile and shared some spacecraft ideas during that time, IMO. It would sort of explain (in-universe) why ship terms such as "bird of prey" and "warbird" have been used by both the Klingons and the Romulans in their history.

 

[penguin44]

Also species 8472 had a fluid style

 

[publiusr]

Kruge's theft of it could be a story all it's own.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Kruge's theft of it could be a story all it's own.

How so?

 

[publiusr]

Oceans 11 style. An old D-7 with a cloak...a space walk...

 

[Tuskin38]

I wonder how Romulan ship design would have looked in TNG if they kept the BoP in ST3 as a Romulan ship.

Maybe it wouldn't have effected it at all, other than possibly having BoP show up in Romulan episodes along side the D'Deridex.

Maybe we would have gotten a new Klingon design.

 

[Dukhat]

I wonder how Romulan ship design would have looked in TNG if they kept the BoP in ST3 as a Romulan ship.

Maybe it wouldn't have effected it at all, other than possibly having BoP show up in Romulan episodes along side the D'Deridex.

Maybe we would have gotten a new Klingon design.

Doubtful. Roddenberry didn't want Klingons in TNG at all (Worf was a last-minute addition.) We would just have gotten reuses of TMP stock footage of K'T'ingas every time they needed to show a Klingon ship.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Ships that are capable of landing don't feature much in Trek beyond shuttles and the occasional BOP like in ST 4.. Anyway found this video about ships landing and various methods for landing

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I do wish Star Trek could embrace the idea more and have more ships that are atmosphere or landing capable.

 

[fireproof78]

I do wish Star Trek could embrace the idea more and have more ships that are atmosphere or landing capable.

I think it would work more in a Enterprise era show, or thereabouts. Star Trek baked in the transporter concept pretty baked in to the point that even under the direst of straights it was only briefly out of commission.

Though Discovery has done something with Book's ship so maybe we'll see more in Season 5.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

I think it would work more in a Enterprise era show, or thereabouts. Star Trek baked in the transporter concept pretty baked in to the point that even under the direst of straights it was only briefly out of commission.

Though Discovery has done something with Book's ship so maybe we'll see more in Season 5.

I know. I thought TOS being the "primitive era" before TNG would have had more like this but they don't either. I would imagine had Enterprise continued we would have likely seem more variations of ships that can take off and land but that show died.

 

[publiusr]

Nothing against Enterprise-G as is…I just think she should look like this:
https://forums.scifi-meshes.com/discussion/comment/2038867#Comment_2038867

 

[blssdwlf]

Ships that are capable of landing don't feature much in Trek beyond shuttles and the occasional BOP like in ST 4.. Anyway found this video about ships landing and various methods for landing

I do wish Star Trek could embrace the idea more and have more ships that are atmosphere or landing capable.

Voyager and Protostar could land as well It's highly probable that many ships in ST can land but we don't get to see it due to time or budget.

 

[HotRod]

Voyager and Protostar could land as well It's highly probable that many ships in ST can land but we don't get to see it due to time or budget.

Didn't the Defiant MSD show landing struts?

 

[fireproof78]

Nothing against Enterprise-G as is…I just think she should look like this:
https://forums.scifi-meshes.com/discussion/comment/2038867#Comment_2038867

Not bad. Certainly takes a better sleekness approach than most of the era.

 

[blssdwlf]

Didn't the Defiant MSD show landing struts?

Hard to tell with the MSDs shown on screen for the Defiant.

 

[Tuskin38]

Didn't the Defiant MSD show landing struts?

Yes

Hard to tell with the MSDs shown on screen for the Defiant.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

^ Yep the landing gear for the defiant is there under the impulse reactor right at the bottom and under the deflector dish

 

[David cgc]

There are six rectangular greebles with domes on them that always looked like landing gear to me. https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/scans/christies/defiant-christies2.jpg https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/scans/drex/defiant-ventral.jpg https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/scans/shipcollection/defiant-views.jpg

 

[blssdwlf]

Based on @Gingerbread Demon and @David cgc 's varied replies it would seem that the MSDs don't clearly indicate what the landing gear look like and where they are

When I look at the MSD I think it is where the purple ui cuts through the ship but don't really see anything under the deflector dish.

@Tuskin38 , which episode does the bottom MSD come from?

Yes

 

[Tuskin38]

@Tuskin38 , which episode does the bottom MSD come from?

Shattered Mirror