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Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

Another issue I had was the Decomissioning of the Enterprise F that had a relatively short lifespan and BTS info tells us that it was due to a computer fault? That doesn't sound like grounds for decomissioning of Starfleet's flagship, more like an excuse to use another starship to replace it.
 
Another issue I had was the Decomissioning of the Enterprise F that had a relatively short lifespan and BTS info tells us that it was due to a computer fault? That doesn't sound like grounds for decomissioning of Starfleet's flagship, more like an excuse to use another starship to replace it.
The timeline is very confusing.
 
Personally I wanted them to refit the Enterprise D at the end and rechristen it the Enterprise G.

While that might have been marginally better than what they did do, it still would have been dumb, no offense.

Renaming the ship they used for the entire third season to the Enterprise wasn't in and of itself a bad idea. Making that ship the Titan-A, giving it some confusing backstory about it being the same ship as Riker's Titan but at the same time a completely different ship, and then renaming it the Enterprise-G were all bad ideas.

Honestly, they should have just made the ship the Yorktown or something, show that the Enterprise-E was still in service but was irreparably damaged during Frontier Day, and then fast-forward to showing the Yorktown being rechristened the Enterprise-F. Not the convoluted crap that actually happened.

Another issue I had was the Decomissioning of the Enterprise F that had a relatively short lifespan and BTS info tells us that it was due to a computer fault? That doesn't sound like grounds for decomissioning of Starfleet's flagship, more like an excuse to use another starship to replace it.

See above. They could have made things much easier had the Enterprise-F been the Enterprise-E.
 
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Another issue I had was the Decomissioning of the Enterprise F that had a relatively short lifespan and BTS info tells us that it was due to a computer fault? That doesn't sound like grounds for decomissioning of Starfleet's flagship, more like an excuse to use another starship to replace it.
The Enterprise-F was around almost twice as long as the Enterprise-D--and that ship managed to do quite a lot during her short time in service. I've no doubt the Enterprise-F did the same, but sometimes even fairly new ships in real life are decommissioned when the winds suddenly blow in a different direction. Maybe Starfleet just no longer needed a ship that big by 2401 and made the decision to divert the yard resources needed to repair that Enterprise towards several smaller ships.
 
Hell, the NX-01 was decommissioned after only 10 years because the new Federation Starfleet would be introducing new Vulcan, Andorian and Tellarite shipbuilding technology into the unified organization that made even United Earth's flagship and most advanced starship a thing of the past. I can totally buy the 1701-F being mothballed after only a decade and a half given how big the Federation and Starfleet had gotten by the year 2401. Even the Franklin - that was actually launched before the NX-01 - only remained in service after 2161 due to obvious technology upgrades and probably the Earth-Romulan War.
 
That's true. So there might not be an Enterprise after the H but before the J. So we're only one ship away from the Titanprise to the Drexlerprise, despite them looking nothing alike and having a huge discrepancy in size. :lol:
Based on the number of Voyagers being 11, it seems they used an "I" to get to "J". If they would only use a serif , it would be easy to tell, but the SF font doesn't have that.
 
Based on the number of Voyagers being 11, it seems they used an "I" to get to "J". If they would only use a serif , it would be easy to tell, but the SF font doesn't have that.

It could. The "D" didn't have serifs until they were building the model for TNG and realized the "D," "O," and "0" all looked almost exactly the same. Though they don't seem to be putting quite the same effort into typography on models anymore...
 
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While that might have been marginally better than what they did do, it still would have been dumb, no offense.

Renaming the ship they used for the entire third season to the Enterprise wasn't in and of itself a bad idea. Making that ship the Titan-A, giving it some confusing backstory about it being the same ship as Riker's Titan but at the same time a completely different ship, and then renaming it the Enterprise-G were all bad ideas.

Honestly, they should have just made the ship the Yorktown or something, show that the Enterprise-E was still in service but was irreparably damaged during Frontier Day, and then fast-forward to showing the Yorktown being rechristened the Enterprise-F. Not the convoluted crap that actually happened.

See above. They could have made things much easier had the Enterprise-F been the Enterprise-E.

Agreed with all this. I'd have preferred the Enterprise-E have been present at Frontier Day too and then be heavily damaged or destroyed in the process. Maybe it was already on the way to retirement, being thirty years old by then, putting it nicely on par with the TOS ship's longevity. Another slightly picky thing I wish had been different was the use of the Excelsior II as the ship sent with Commander Ro. Somehow it just parallels too nicely with "The Search for Spock" to have it running them down.

Would anyone have wanted to see most of the action take place aboard the Enterprise-E for the season, instead of the Titan, before they have to switch over to the D? There would have been a great opportunity for the "this used to be my ship" stuff that Riker and Picard went through and all the "refit" stuff could have still worked. The two ships flying together at the end of the Frontier Day incident rather than the Titan and the D would have been pretty cool. Then just have both retired. There could have been some interesting emotional resonance with all the crew, though I do wonder if it would have upstaged the D somehow?
 
Would anyone have wanted to see most of the action take place aboard the Enterprise-E for the season, instead of the Titan, before they have to switch over to the D? There would have been a great opportunity for the "this used to be my ship" stuff that Riker and Picard went through and all the "refit" stuff could have still worked. The two ships flying together at the end of the Frontier Day incident rather than the Titan and the D would have been pretty cool. Then just have both retired. There could have been some interesting emotional resonance with all the crew, though I do wonder if it would have upstaged the D somehow?

If anything, it would've upstaged the -E to have the TNG crew going back to save the day in their "real" ship, to have that be the big reveal after spending a season in a ship they should be just as nostalgic for (they were all on the -E at least as long as the -D, some of them longer), but it would've been acceptable and, I think, preferable. Definitely better than keeping the other idea of the Titan (A or otherwise) as the main ship and having the -E in place of the -F's cameo appearance in the story.

Still, the current generation of Star Trek, for all its love of nostalgia, seems allergic to actually living in the past. The idea of returning to an existing hero ship as more than just a brief treat (or as an opportunity to reimagine it) rather than doing something new seems to be totally unacceptable to them. Even with the excuse that it's twenty years later and the ship has been in service for all that time, so they could redesign the sets to a degree, I can't imagine them being willing to set an entire season on the (old, passé, not-designed-here) Enterprise-E in the way that, say, the Star Wars sequels used the Millennium Falcon as a primary vehicle in those movies. Star Trek just seems to be in a constant war with itself over asserting its novelty and freshness versus keeping to what came before. Personally, I'd flip it the other way around, I'd much rather have a show set on the Enterprise-E, looking just how it did twenty years ago, but with fresh stories that didn't feel derivative or like thematic (or, occasionally, literal) retellings of existing episodes.
 
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I'm curious to see what a Galaxy Class Refit would look like and what others would prefer.
Something similar to the...

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Ross Class (PIC)

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Or keep it the same (just update the internals)
 
Another issue I had was the Decomissioning of the Enterprise F that had a relatively short lifespan and BTS info tells us that it was due to a computer fault? That doesn't sound like grounds for decomissioning of Starfleet's flagship, more like an excuse to use another starship to replace it.

Heh - Kirk's new Enterprise in TFF wasn't up to par mechanically, and he still got sent after Sybok because of plot (other ships but no experienced commanders... whatever that means. ;)). :rommie:
 
Admiral Bennett just wanted to stick Kirk with the dirty mission. Must have seen Kirk hitting on his daughter or something.
 
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