If the models are not rendered at a high enough poly count then they would have to do them from scratch for the quality they want.
Regardless, it all takes time and money.
Regardless, it all takes time and money.
Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard
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As far as I'm concerned that's a Magee-STYLE ship and not actually one, any more than the Prometheus-class starship thrown into the Battle of Procyon V with the Enterprise-J was really a 180-year-old Federation starship.
Just an easy reuse of an existing GCI model to save money.
Just an easy reuse of an existing GCI model to save money.
And some of us who do don't care either.
Only for close ups. For example it would be pretty easy to arrange a drydock shot so that the ships are not close to the camera.
Also, making TV shows always takes time and money. That something requires work is not an excuse for not doing it.
it's so much easier to justify the reuse of models in that episode (or the horrendous kitbash ships in DS9, among other things) because they were in the background and not quite so easily scrutinized. "children of mars" put these anachronistic ships front and center. but obviously your mileage my vary.
At least it's a lot more believable that they would still have old 23rd C ships flying around in the 24th than retcon a ship designed specifically for 24th C use (Akira) into the NX-01 Enterprise that existed 200 years in the past (and I'm still not sure I like the notion of the immortal D-7's). I love the Akira, but that was a bit of a credibility stretch, IMO.
Jus' sayin'...
Jus' sayin'...
Ok can you please give me an example as to how a 'lower poly' model would somehow look any different than a higher poly one? Tricks can be done with textures and lighting to make the model still look good without the need to resort to making higher quality models from scratch. I think there's a certain point where people get too anal about the poly count, when you easily have many sources of lower poly models that still look good from a distance. We're not talking about doing full on closeups here, not for all shots.
i mean, i hear you but i also disagree. it's easy (for me) to chalk the similarities, which i admit are numerous, up to coincidence or even homage. either the akira-class is accidentally extremely similar to the NX-class or the designers at utopia planitia were just updating an old design. either is fairly believable given the gap in time and the fact that the producers didn't simply reuse the akira-class model, they did a reasonable job modifying it and making it specific to the era they were trying to portray.
I didn't say that it was an excuse. I'm simply observing possibilities.
You're right that tricks can be done. I'm just observing the requirements of making the models usable for their purposes.
I have no idea what caused them to not. I just am noting there are other possibilities that impacted that work.
Now, had the ships had visible early-to-mid 23rd century registry numbers hovering around 1000 or 1500? THAT would have been obnoxious.
As it stands they're just wireframe models without names or registry numbers.
As it stands they're just wireframe models without names or registry numbers.
NX-01 is not Akira any more than various Enterpries from TOS onwards are the same ship. They merely have somewhat similar layout. D7 in ENT was a mistake and the producers apologised for it and other Klingon ship in the show were era appropriate. I'm willing to ignore it, just like I'm willing to ignore this if the producers say it was an error and the ships in the actual Picard show are era appropriate.
You're right-we don't know, nor do we know the process of what was done for this project. All we know is what is seen, and that's it.
Star Trek TOS Remastered. I'd prefer these new series not to look that crappy.
Starfleet should have a museum that the public can visit. It might have more than one campus, and one of them could be in Martian orbit.
To be fair, that final model in the remastered series was a CBS decision, and when the first version was criticized for looking off, they redid the mode in time for The Trouble with Tribbles with a far improved Enterprise model. All they really need to do these days with these models is add more realistic lighting detail:
And the TOS Remastered Enterprise was designed in part to mimic the environmental lighting and "pop" of the original 1960s special effects, to stand out and look as if they came from the late '60s had the effects artists of that time had CGI technology at their disposal.
TOS Remastered gave us vastly improved ships and planets without surrendering the overall feel of the original special effects. They blended with the cinematography and lighting used in TOS and didn't stand out too glaringly against the classic sets and actors.
TOS Remastered gave us vastly improved ships and planets without surrendering the overall feel of the original special effects. They blended with the cinematography and lighting used in TOS and didn't stand out too glaringly against the classic sets and actors.
Very true. There were considerable internal differences between the TMP Refit-E and the E-A and they were only a few years apart!
We needn't discuss the dimensionally transcendental turbolift shafts here, although after seeing the open Disco and DSC-E wonky funhouse internal configurations, the main 78-deck TFF shaft doesn't seem quite so strange anymore.
People would probably then just bitch about how not having the starships clearly on screen is obviously a sign that the fx people did shoddy work. Damned if they do damned if they don't.
