Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by pst, Jan 9, 2020.

  1. Longinus

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    Current tech, sure. But this is a supposed post-scarcity world. The Excelsior shape is similar enough that I don't see enough of a difference that would render the Constitution shape any less usable with 24th century tech.
    It can stay in the 23rd century. Fine by me. Just stating a preference, as well as confusion at the notion that a Constitution couldn't be built from the keel up with 24th century materials.
     
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    They seem similar to us. But presumably not to people in the setting that understand the technology at more nuanced degree. The things are built in certain way for some purpose. Form follows function and all that. It simply breaks the verisimilitude for this not be the case.
     
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    I don't think it is an impossible task with the supposed tech available to them.
     
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    Ambassador class was the replacement for the Excelsior, the Galaxy a replacement for the Ambassador, the Sovereign a replacement for the Galaxy. Yet the Starfleet still seemed to be full of them all the way to the 2370's.

    Just because they were retiring the Enterprise doesn't mean they were retiring the entire line.
     
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    Not at once. But by all reason by TNG era they're gone. Also, there definitely should have been more Ambassadors and less Excelsiors. But still, Excelsior was two generations behind TNG era state of the art, Galaxy, so certainly not unreasonable that they would still be in use. Connie would be three generations behind. And by the Picard era Disco ships are like six generations behind the current tech. It is just getting silly.
     
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    As late as 2293, we only knew of one Excelsior class ship in service, the USS Excelsior. That was nearly ten years after they were going to retire the "original" Enterprise.

    I imagine the Constitution class served well into the 24th century.
     
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    I suppose we should all start preparing ourselves to see Discovery ships still in operation in the 31st century.
     
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    The SAME thing that kept TOS fans (like myself) from getting the original 1701 look WE also deserved in ST: D Season 2. Namely they want do do what they feel is a modern/fresh (production-wise for 2020) and not be beholden to production design decisions from 33-55 years ago.

    It's a new production era for the Star Trek franchise as a whole. Deal with it. ;)
     
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    And I really doubt there would have been much complaints if there were had been some new 24th century ships here. If they want to do their own thing visually, then this is a great opportunity. This is new era that has not been seen before, so they can establish its look. But instead they recycled Discovery assets.
     
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    Yep - and it's establishing their take - that the Federation uses ships for a LONG time (much as was infered by the use of the ILM Excelsior Class filming model and other ILM 23c Star Trek film models throughout the run of TNG.)
     
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    Brilliant. But you flubbed the comm badge. So NON CANON!!!

    The Excelsior was still in service when the Sovereign hit the scene, so it was also three generations behind state of the art and still in service in the 2370's.
     
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    Should we assume the Excelsiors replaced the Connies, if not for technical,then potitical reasons?
     
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    The Excelsior-class probably spent a time as the top of the line Starfleet ship. But the Connies continued on in support roles well into the 24th century. They simply had to, at least until there was a viable fleet of Excelsiors.
     
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    I hope you realize that the post I made was basically a giant sarcasm sandwich dripping in ironic sauce.