All I remember is Daniels saying multiple times that “This wasn’t supposed to happen!”
And yet he didn’t immediately cease to exist.
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All I remember is Daniels saying multiple times that “This wasn’t supposed to happen!”
And yet he didn’t immediately cease to exist.
Season 2 scale chart for comparison: https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/fleet-pic-s2/fleet-starships.jpg
Looks like the Akira class is only 262 m long in season 3. Which doesn't make a lot of sense, even though the VFX people have sometimes scaled to that size before (in DS9).
Looks like the Akira class is only 262 m long in season 3. Which doesn't make a lot of sense, even though the VFX people have sometimes scaled to that size before (in DS9).
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He reposted it with a new akira length. but forgot to remove the old length lol
https://twitter.com/daveblass/status/1651017155482099712?s=46&t=GJ4lIGndtLwuph_LJO2AJw
https://twitter.com/daveblass/status/1651017155482099712?s=46&t=GJ4lIGndtLwuph_LJO2AJw
I'm just glad that for the first time in close to two centuries a new Enterprise isn't bigger than the one that preceded it.
Now I can finally make this comparison showing why the G doesn't fit
The Enterprise-E was less than half the volume of the Enterprise-D (2,429,000m³ vs 5,821,000m³). In fact it was slightly less than the volume of the Enterprise-C (2,871,000m³). Size isn't just length, gentlemen...
Also – the Constitution-class was less than the volume of the refit NX class (212,000m³ vs 220,000m³). And in fact due to 10% of the regular NX volume being nacelle compared to 25% of the Constitution volume being nacelle, the NX-01 in her original configuration already had a larger habitable volume than the 1701 (180,000m³ vs 160,000m³).
As a DS9 fan, I would note that both the station and the Defiant's size and scale have been big open questions that vary a lot from episode to episode. It's interesting that they made the Defiant a little bit bigger than it was usually shown on the series.Dave tweeted a Starfleet scale chart but then deleted it. I guess there was an error on it
USS Enterprise Ship Sizes is like the Stock Market.
It can't keep going up forever without going back down at some point; eventually, it'll go back up in future iterations and reach new heights that represent new apexes for each respective era/time period, and will represent the largest USS Enterprise ever made at that time. Until then, this is one fo those era's where the USS Enterprise's size goes back down.
And remember, all the times it's gotten longer, it hasn't necessarily gotten bigger volume-wise.
Maybe the J we saw was developed in response to the Expanse growing up until that point and possibly built like that to get as many people out of the galaxy as possible, but since it was in the battle anyway, that part kinda failed.
The J we eventually see may be nothing like that ship.
I agree but I could also simply see them skipping over the J altogether but using the "Azati Prime" design simply so they don't have to design something new, in my mind kind of like how Picard used the Odyssey-class for the F. The thing about that "Azati Prime' future is that there's a Dauntless-class, a Prometheus-class and a Nova-class fighting alongside the J so it can't be too different from the regular universe.
Calling it a great mistake is a bit much.
Personally, I've always thought the sizing of Enterprises needed a revamp. The 442m 1701 is perfect in sizing, especially when compared to the NX-01.
The Enterprise-B on the other hand, should be longer then the Ent-C. It's the only way the Excelsior class makes any damn sense.
The D and the E are fine, but the F is too damn big, for my taste.
Finally, if were up to me, I'd put the G down in size to match the 442m Enterprise Saucer.
But that's me.
Firstly, every other Enterprise so far was the pinnacle of Starfleet engineering. With the G they spent an entire season telling us what a rustbucket she is. So no progression here.
Secondly, we have the botched up and contrived background story of the refit. Was it just some raw materials or more as dialogue suggests when Picard referes to her as Riker's old command.
Thirdly, it doesn't make much sense that Starfleet thought NCC-80102 did something so impressive that its successor deserved a prefix, yet has no qualms erasing the name and registry.
Fourthly, I'm not a fan of "Class Roman Numeral" designations.
And lastly, minimal effort was made to bring the 23rd century Shangri La class to the 25th century so it looks oddly out of place.
So, basically everything about this ship just doesn't work out. It's the biggest mistake they made this season IMO.
Nah, what they said in the first three episodes was that it is an exploratory vessel. Not primarily a battle ship or ambassador ship.
Which to me would make me extremely excited for Legacy (if it happens) because the implication would be that they're exploring again, rather than hanging round waiting for an arc to hit them in the face.
Which to me would make me extremely excited for Legacy (if it happens) because the implication would be that they're exploring again, rather than hanging round waiting for an arc to hit them in the face.
