Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by pst, Jan 9, 2020.
But it's a plot point of several episodes that he isn't.
There are multiple Daniels, some are not protected?
All I remember is Daniels saying multiple times that “This wasn’t supposed to happen!”
And yet he didn’t immediately cease to exist.
Dave tweeted a Starfleet scale chart but then deleted it. I guess there was an error on it
Season 2 scale chart for comparison: https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/fleet-pic-s2/fleet-starships.jpg
Looks like the Akira class is only 262 m long in season 3. Which doesn't make a lot of sense, even though the VFX people have sometimes scaled to that size before (in DS9).
He reposted it with a new akira length. but forgot to remove the old length lol
Now I can finally make this comparison showing why the G doesn't fit
I don’t have an issue with the Enterprise being smaller. I have an issue with the design and the convoluted way it became an Enterprise.
I'm just glad that for the first time in close to two centuries a new Enterprise isn't bigger than the one that preceded it.
Not a huge issue, but I’d have preferred if it had the same 25th century saucer design as Intrepid.
The Enterprise-E was less than half the volume of the Enterprise-D (2,429,000m³ vs 5,821,000m³). In fact it was slightly less than the volume of the Enterprise-C (2,871,000m³). Size isn't just length, gentlemen...
Also – the Constitution-class was less than the volume of the refit NX class (212,000m³ vs 220,000m³). And in fact due to 10% of the regular NX volume being nacelle compared to 25% of the Constitution volume being nacelle, the NX-01 in her original configuration already had a larger habitable volume than the 1701 (180,000m³ vs 160,000m³).
Hell, I'd have preferred it if it had the same overall design as the Intrepid. Much better-looking ship.
As a DS9 fan, I would note that both the station and the Defiant's size and scale have been big open questions that vary a lot from episode to episode. It's interesting that they made the Defiant a little bit bigger than it was usually shown on the series.
USS Enterprise Ship Sizes is like the Stock Market.
It can't keep going up forever without going back down at some point; eventually, it'll go back up in future iterations and reach new heights that represent new apexes for each respective era/time period, and will represent the largest USS Enterprise ever made at that time. Until then, this is one fo those era's where the USS Enterprise's size goes back down.
And remember, all the times it's gotten longer, it hasn't necessarily gotten bigger volume-wise.
Still, there was a progression of sorts. The Great Mistake is a big step back.
Maybe the J we saw was developed in response to the Expanse growing up until that point and possibly built like that to get as many people out of the galaxy as possible, but since it was in the battle anyway, that part kinda failed.
The J we eventually see may be nothing like that ship.
I agree but I could also simply see them skipping over the J altogether but using the "Azati Prime" design simply so they don't have to design something new, in my mind kind of like how Picard used the Odyssey-class for the F. The thing about that "Azati Prime' future is that there's a Dauntless-class, a Prometheus-class and a Nova-class fighting alongside the J so it can't be too different from the regular universe.
Calling it a great mistake is a bit much.
Personally, I've always thought the sizing of Enterprises needed a revamp. The 442m 1701 is perfect in sizing, especially when compared to the NX-01.
The Enterprise-B on the other hand, should be longer then the Ent-C. It's the only way the Excelsior class makes any damn sense.
The D and the E are fine, but the F is too damn big, for my taste.
Finally, if were up to me, I'd put the G down in size to match the 442m Enterprise Saucer.
But that's me.
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