IN TNG S2, Pulaski talked about giving Geordi cloned implants or replicated eyes. Eyes must be more complex than lungs.
Starship design history in light of Discovery
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Why? They are mere lenses, with some neural tissue at the back end. There's nothing fancy going on chemically, and indeed wholly artificial elements could be used in place of the biological ones to create a working eye. Lungs... are processing plants.
Neural tissue is what the EMH replicates without further ado in "Emanations", thereafter proceeding to resurrecting the dead patient, again without much in the way of ado. Apparently, an entire spine's worth of neural tissue is replicated in "Ethics", too. But nerves are just glorified electrical wires, the chemical interaction between cells being of a relatively unvarying type compared with what the lungs do.
Still, the EMH was able to do holo-lungs, which sounds way more complex than replicated lungs... We probably need specific excuses to wholly explain "Phage" here.
Timo Saloniemi
Neural tissue is what the EMH replicates without further ado in "Emanations", thereafter proceeding to resurrecting the dead patient, again without much in the way of ado. Apparently, an entire spine's worth of neural tissue is replicated in "Ethics", too. But nerves are just glorified electrical wires, the chemical interaction between cells being of a relatively unvarying type compared with what the lungs do.
Still, the EMH was able to do holo-lungs, which sounds way more complex than replicated lungs... We probably need specific excuses to wholly explain "Phage" here.
Timo Saloniemi
She offered ocular implants that would officer up to 80% of the same vision as the Visor. There was no mention of them being cloned or replicated real eyes.
"In TNG: "Loud as a Whisper", Dr. Pulaski suggests two options to Geordi La Forge to replace his unwieldy VISOR. The first would be optical devices that look like normal eyes but with a slightly lower performance than the VISOR, which Geordi declines. The second option involves a stimulation of his optical nerves, plus replicated eyes."
Cloned implants were also mentioned in Future Imperfect, which I realize was a faux future.
I seem to remember another mention, maybe the one where Worf is injured?
...The fun thing is that Pulaski nonchalantly rattles off the many ways LaForge's eyes could be fixed, and it's all news to the patient, something his previous physician never appears to have mentioned!
Crusher need not have been incompetent as such, but she could have been a bit of a reactionary. She treats replicated organs (or "genetronic replication", which technically might be a different technique but in practice is never indicated to differ from replication of sandwiches or hand phasers) with suspicion and disdain in "Ethics", after all.
It's a shame her foil in that episode was a mere guest star of the week - having her be Pulaski would have been glorious! But yes, the remark about replicating body parts is there, and there are no contrary remarks elsewhere to suggest that living tissue or living beings would be impossible or even particularly difficult to replicate.
Timo Saloniemi
Crusher need not have been incompetent as such, but she could have been a bit of a reactionary. She treats replicated organs (or "genetronic replication", which technically might be a different technique but in practice is never indicated to differ from replication of sandwiches or hand phasers) with suspicion and disdain in "Ethics", after all.
It's a shame her foil in that episode was a mere guest star of the week - having her be Pulaski would have been glorious! But yes, the remark about replicating body parts is there, and there are no contrary remarks elsewhere to suggest that living tissue or living beings would be impossible or even particularly difficult to replicate.
Timo Saloniemi
There may have been, at least, talk of it being Pulaski. Tho I'm not sure Pulaski was ever (or would be) that reckless or nonchalant about using a person as a test subject the way Russell did.
Now you have had replications of Kirks and Rikers as part of a cascading system disentangled somehow.
But to do something that would seem easier like "make" a separate organ that isn't tired into a system might be harder for the technology.
In automotive mechanics, you don't disassemble a car while it is running....but the way a transporter works...perhaps the ONLY way to get the organ is to do the entire being. Remember "Dead Stop" Ware tech couldn't even do protists on their own.
Separate non-living non-field infused organs might be harder, except as food...and then it isn't quite right...thus taste differences I guess.
But to do something that would seem easier like "make" a separate organ that isn't tired into a system might be harder for the technology.
In automotive mechanics, you don't disassemble a car while it is running....but the way a transporter works...perhaps the ONLY way to get the organ is to do the entire being. Remember "Dead Stop" Ware tech couldn't even do protists on their own.
Separate non-living non-field infused organs might be harder, except as food...and then it isn't quite right...thus taste differences I guess.
Some season 1, 2 and short trek concept art here
http://www.williambudge.com/new-gallery
It's mostly ship shots which is why I posted it here
http://www.williambudge.com/new-gallery
It's mostly ship shots which is why I posted it here
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Interesting highlights in the battle with Control: shuttles with wings, and a 3D rather than 2D enveloping of the hero ships.
What is the weird blob of a small craft seen here? A forcefield around a workbee? A dedicated observation pod? What adventure was this for?
http://www.williambudge.com/new-gallery/85kupwkx1gqid8mhmf9tiwn6myk4qk
http://www.williambudge.com/new-gallery/lx09i5eg03ahcubf9yab8lez1xak3g
Mudd ship concept?
http://www.williambudge.com/new-gallery/nogyevs8yq9xctwlddqrfk3neodkzk
For "Sound of Thunder"? Or moving past his Trek work altogether?
http://www.williambudge.com/new-gallery/wlf2dh157foshvhzleyywf3cwzwsyw
Timo Saloniemi
What is the weird blob of a small craft seen here? A forcefield around a workbee? A dedicated observation pod? What adventure was this for?
http://www.williambudge.com/new-gallery/85kupwkx1gqid8mhmf9tiwn6myk4qk
http://www.williambudge.com/new-gallery/lx09i5eg03ahcubf9yab8lez1xak3g
Mudd ship concept?
http://www.williambudge.com/new-gallery/nogyevs8yq9xctwlddqrfk3neodkzk
For "Sound of Thunder"? Or moving past his Trek work altogether?
http://www.williambudge.com/new-gallery/wlf2dh157foshvhzleyywf3cwzwsyw
Timo Saloniemi
Im thinking it’s a concept for Craft’s pod from the short trek episode.
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They aren't. Several plants have genomes larger than humans. The size of the genome is poorly correlated to the complexity of the organism. There are single-celled algae that have genomes three or four times larger than you.
Eaves has added more Season 1 ship concept art to his site.
https://www.johneavesart.com/apps/photos/album?albumid=16056491
Some of this will be old to those who collected the eaglemoss models + books. But there are designs in there I've never seen before.
Ohh it's the unaltered version of the SoL Calandar image
https://www.johneavesart.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=206819809
https://www.johneavesart.com/apps/photos/album?albumid=16056491
Some of this will be old to those who collected the eaglemoss models + books. But there are designs in there I've never seen before.
Ohh it's the unaltered version of the SoL Calandar image
https://www.johneavesart.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=206819809
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Interesting; I've never seen most of this concept art before. Surprisingly, most of the rough concept ships have registries between 1XXX and 8XXX. I wonder if they were supposed to have been designed for a post-TUC/pre-TNG show rather than a ten-years-before-TOS prequel. That would explain why most of the finished ships don't resemble TOS-era designs AT ALL.
Many of these I hadn't seen before, and are notably different from the styles that ended up in the show. Very interesting.
Eaves really loves using Yeager as a placeholder name or class in any era of design.
Eaves really loves using Yeager as a placeholder name or class in any era of design.
He used NCC-8999 or somesuch in his ST'09 Kobayashi Maru concept art too, it's just what he likes to do.
The Disco designs were deliberately made not to fit with TOS, same as the Klingon ones. It just happens that all of JE's stuff looks like the Enterprise-E.
I was aware of that, but the random numbers he uses were usually drawn on the ships themselves. In this instance the name, registry and class information were written above the ship drawing, making me think that while Eaves did the artwork, someone else provided the ship information. But I'm probably wrong about that.
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These two look like Disco-era starships 22nd century Intrepid class: https://www.johneavesart.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=206819828
It's not true at all. There's very little in common with these designs and the Ent-E.
Other than having half saucers, not really.
They could have evolved from the intrepid-Type design.
I like the naming theme on the left one. USS (Jerry) Goldsmith, (Alexander) Courage-Class
So Eaves didn't only submit aviation themed names.
Most of them look like designs we’d see in 2370 rather than 2250. One of the ships even has nacelles that look like they literally came off a Jem’Hadar ship.