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Starship design history in light of Discovery

I think any culture operating a Bird of Prey is a natural candidate for legitimately operating a Warbird, too.

And vice versa, of course. But the Romulans are not known for having a Bird of Prey in any canon context. Or even a Raptor. They only have Warbirds, the poor things.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Ship terminology at this point is out the window. If someone says that there’s a Terrellian bird-of-prey or an Andorian warbird, I wouldn’t be at all surprised.
 
We call it a Romulan Bird-of-Prey and I believe that's what it has come to be called by the producers of the franchise over the years but I don't think it was ever given an official class name or type name in canon.
 
cooleddie74 said:
We call it a Romulan Bird-of-Prey and I believe that's what it has come to be called by the producers of the franchise over the years but I don't think it was ever given an official class name or type name in canon.
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Ok, that's what I was thinking. But, having the Micro Machines, and various ancillary materials over the years all I have seen it called is a Bird of Prey.
 
cooleddie74 said:
Lt. Stiles says that 22nd century Romulan warships during the Earth-Romulan War were painted with an enormous bird-of-prey but that's as close as we ever got.
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And what we saw in ENT showed that this wasn’t true. What a big ol’ liar Stiles was, huh?
 
Although by TOS standards the NX-01 would probably have been considered pretty primitive. No shields. No tractor beams. Only the earliest forerunners to photon torpedoes and phasers and when she left drydock she was armed with spatial torpedoes that were driven by a form of solid or liquid propellant that kept their velocities in combat to a comparative crawl compared to the velocities that photonic and later photon torpedoes could achieve.

The NX-01 was the best Earth could offer in the 2150s. By the 2260s she would have been a relic of a former era and a primitive ancestor of the top-of-the-line starships of the later era.
 
fireproof78 said:
Yeah, I gathered that by the rather black and white comment.

As I said, and as @cooleddie74 elaborated, primitive is a matter of reference point.
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And everything @cooleddie74 listed, the NX-01 had; it was only a paper-thin difference in terminology and technology to any other 23rd or 24th century starship.

And if my comment seemed ‘black and white’ to you, allow me to elaborate on what I meant by the word ‘primitive’ in the context of a spacecraft:

1. No warp propulsion.
2. No shields (or ‘polarized hull plating’ or other such nonsense)
3. No beam weapons.
4. No artificial gravity.
5. No transporters.
6. No viewscreens.
7. A constant need for refueling and repair.
8. No auxiliary craft.
9. No extra space.
10. Constant crew rotation to avoid being subjected to too much time in space on the human body.

And many more such points. None of which I saw in the NX-01.
 
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