That’s how they appear here as well
The nacelles seems also angled at the front like the ones seen here.
Starship design history in light of Discovery
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The nacelles seems also angled at the front like the ones seen here.
Well, in my mind, of course..
Each member planet still has its own defense fleet, scientific fleet, etc. but puts resources towards starfleet.. So designs of home fleets correspond to there planets asthitics and ship life support.
But Starfleet has a Majority based ship and systems. Most breath O2, 1 earth gravity, etc. Some species are a bit uncomfortable, like Vulcans, or complete encounter suits. Some starfleet ships are manned fully by other species and there life support corresponds.
So its a mostly Saucer and Sticks for Starfleet, guess in honor of the NX-01 I guess..
Each member planet still has its own defense fleet, scientific fleet, etc. but puts resources towards starfleet.. So designs of home fleets correspond to there planets asthitics and ship life support.
But Starfleet has a Majority based ship and systems. Most breath O2, 1 earth gravity, etc. Some species are a bit uncomfortable, like Vulcans, or complete encounter suits. Some starfleet ships are manned fully by other species and there life support corresponds.
So its a mostly Saucer and Sticks for Starfleet, guess in honor of the NX-01 I guess..
I feel like they keep initial appearances of ships on this show blurry and dark just so they can make decisions about their look later on.
I really got a Ptolemy class vibe from the on-screen shots in Brother. Like, even out of focus as they were, the proportions and visible parts just looked right. Obviously they aren't going to show a Ptolemy and have to pay money to FJ's estate or wherever.
This is the CG model of the tug straight from CBS, this is the screen used model. It doesn't even have an official name, or a name written on the hull.
Eaglemoss did create a name for it though, and submitted it to CBS for approval.
https://twitter.com/bencsrobinson/status/1194346752339525632?s=21
"Tuggy McTugface" 
Are those tug nacelles recoloured Federation versions of the Disco-D7??
No, they're from the Hoover-Class from Season 1 and the Mudd short trek.
I posted a picture last page.
They really bring to mind this image:
But on closer inspection, I can see they're the ones you say.
There's a lot of discontent about DSC's angular-and-stripey starships, and it seems to derive from the assumption that the Constitution class, as depicted in TOS et seq, is representative of the era's shipbuilding philosophy and, more specifically, external aesthetic. But let's flip the idea -- what if the Connies are the exception?
How much evidence do we have that (a) Starfleet uses a harmonized aesethetic, and (b) that the Connies are its best exemplar? On-screen, not much. TOS gave us exactly one class of capital ship, in multiple copies, and the shuttlecraft with its kindred nacelles; TAS gave us the predecessor Bonaventure (a lumpier Connie) and the freighter Huron (uses Connie-style nacelles); ST2:TWOK gave us Reliant, a remix of refit-Enterprise. We didn't get an explosion of classes until TNG-era.
Then there's the countervailing on-screen evidence: Excelsior and Grissom don't bear close similarity to refit-Enterprise and Reliant.
The idea that TOS-to-movie-era Starfleet has a plethora of classes, and that they share a common "look", seems to derive from written sources, such as Franz Joseph's Star Fleet Technical Manual (1975) and the RPG sourcebooks for Star Fleet Battles (1979 et seq). That, plus retroactively applying a principle from the TNG-era shows (i.e., "give each faction a distinctive look").
So, if the Connies are the exception, we can ask -- why? Perhaps the curves and pearly-white finish were dictated by mission requirements? Maybe the design was a fad? Perhaps "only 12 like her in the fleet" is a statement not of prestige, but of an expensive dead-end. (It'd be ironic if the many successes of the Enterprise crew were achieved despite using outdated, incompatible technology.)
How much evidence do we have that (a) Starfleet uses a harmonized aesethetic, and (b) that the Connies are its best exemplar? On-screen, not much. TOS gave us exactly one class of capital ship, in multiple copies, and the shuttlecraft with its kindred nacelles; TAS gave us the predecessor Bonaventure (a lumpier Connie) and the freighter Huron (uses Connie-style nacelles); ST2:TWOK gave us Reliant, a remix of refit-Enterprise. We didn't get an explosion of classes until TNG-era.
Then there's the countervailing on-screen evidence: Excelsior and Grissom don't bear close similarity to refit-Enterprise and Reliant.
The idea that TOS-to-movie-era Starfleet has a plethora of classes, and that they share a common "look", seems to derive from written sources, such as Franz Joseph's Star Fleet Technical Manual (1975) and the RPG sourcebooks for Star Fleet Battles (1979 et seq). That, plus retroactively applying a principle from the TNG-era shows (i.e., "give each faction a distinctive look").
So, if the Connies are the exception, we can ask -- why? Perhaps the curves and pearly-white finish were dictated by mission requirements? Maybe the design was a fad? Perhaps "only 12 like her in the fleet" is a statement not of prestige, but of an expensive dead-end. (It'd be ironic if the many successes of the Enterprise crew were achieved despite using outdated, incompatible technology.)
None.
The TOS aesthetic does not exist anymore in the Star Trek universe, as is demonstrated with the Discovery Enterprise. .
It exists as long as you remember it.
And as long as TOS still exists.
They really bring to mind this image:
But on closer inspection, I can see they're the ones you say.
I hope the D7 doesn't have that greenish tinge that I think I'm seeing in that Eaglemoss pic. It's clearly dark gray to black. I'm sick of seeing green Klingon ships.
Eaglemoss's models are the screen used assets, so if there's looks like that, that's what it was in the show. The lighting in the show is just hiding it.
The STO model also has a slight green tint. It isn't very noticeable.
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I loved that.It's also in Pike's flashback
The I.K.S. Gr'oth had a green tinge to its hull in "Trials and Tribbleations(DS9)." It's clearly a D7 from the TOS Era that had a hull that wasn't like the others we saw in TOS.
Because they are ancient.
Regardless of whether we take the registries on all these ships as indicative or not, it's simple to say the round nacelles of Kirk's ship are a leftover from the turn of the century or so: a ship of that design by the registry 1017 may be trotted out as evidence, then. The DSC "standardization" on boxy nacelles is quite a blessing, as it allows us to think that nacelle shape indeed denotes era, with the Shenzhou an explicit relic and the Enterprise an implicit one.
That these particular relics don't get the box upgrade may mean they are hopeless cases - or that they were overengineered to begin with, or built for a specific niche where they face no competition.
Timo Saloniemi
The D7 nacelles were inspired by the Season 1 ship designs, and the 'bridge' was inspired by Eaves work on Enterprise.
Concept art for the Federation 'Tactical flyers'. I like these a lot more. I really recommend watching the video, some neat stuff in it.
Ah! So that’s where the tactical flyer in Star Trek Timelines comes from.
I just watched the latest Star Trek short. That engineering set in the heart of Enterprise is going to upend several ideas about starships.