Starship design history in light of Discovery

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by INACTIVEUSS Einstein, Nov 18, 2017.

  1. DEWLine

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    Seconding that. Not sure how many such ships (whatever ship classes they are), but such things should be scattered throughout the Federation nearby spaces.
     
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  2. Timo

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    The "hospital ship" of today is certainly not the only possible incarnation of the idea of medicine afloat. Dedicated "ambulance ships" also serve, incapable of hospital-level care but useful in moving patients to protected areas for said care. Such things are perhaps going out of fashion thanks to developments in air travel, but other concepts combining seagoing hulls and medical care are likely to emerge. And one thing likely to persist for now is installing a hospital aboard a heavily armed, forwardmost-frontline combatant - today, it's mainly amphibious assault vessels, but other options abound.

    Timo Saloniemi
     
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  3. DEWLine

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    I can imagine runabouts being adapted for "ambulance"/"field hospital support" work as well...
     
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    A Triage Runabout sounds like a good idea. Just big enough to carry a fair number of wounded but small and agile enough to slip through enemy lines without drawing the attention of a hospital ship or medical starship.
     
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    The Edison is a surprisingly "ventral" ship: one of the few to have easily recognizable torpedo tubes, plus classic pairs of phaser turrets in classic positions on the ventral side, but no phaser banks on the dorsal side, and less texture overall.

    (The Clarke in turn seems to lack ventral phasers... While the others have more banks everywhere than even the Excelsior.)

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  8. F. King Daniel

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    The page says some models are reproductions for the magazine and model collection so they're not 100% guaranteed screen-accurate.

    I will say that at some of their official sizes, those windows are approximately the size of postage stamps.:p
     
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  9. Tuskin38

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    Any model that was made from scratch has this note on the image.
    [​IMG]
    None of the Discovery model renders have it.
    They all do say they were retextured though. But we don't have any context on what that means. It might be Maya to Lightwave doesn't preserve the save UV, so the texture would have to be edited to fit it.
     
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    Ah, fair enough. I haven't looked around much yet.
     
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  11. 137th Gebirg

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    They are very nice looking works. This guy has talent!

    Unfortunately, not all of them have orthos, though.
     
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    new discovery-verse starship for STO:
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    i think if they slimmed down those nacelles, it'd be a pretty novel design design. nice to see those enterprise-style engines coupled with a more discovery-like saucer.
     
  13. F. King Daniel

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    Those nacelles echo the USS Franklin from Star Trek Beyond.
     
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    they remind me of the USS salcombe, also from beyond.
     
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  15. Tuskin38

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    They'll also be making a 25th Century version of the design.
     
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    From comics to videogame...
     
  17. David cgc

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    I thought the conversion note was pretty funny, since a fair amount of DSC ships from the pilot were modeled in Lightwave in the first place, then converted to Maya when they closed down the in-house VFX team due to the production delays with shooting.

    I think UVs travel fairly well from Maya to Lightwave, but the shading model might be different enough that Fabio could've needed to alter the image maps in some way for them to look right, but I'd need to know a lot more about both his and DSC's rendering process to be sure. And anything that was done procedurally or as a lighting effect would have to be reverse-engineered.
     
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  18. DaveyNY

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    I'm just glad that we are going to get more ships with Round Nacelles from the TOS time period.
    :techman:

    (I just hope They don't put it in a lockbox)
     
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    It's going to have a 25th Century design as well according to the Community Manager, so it will most likely be in the C-Store based on that fact alone. They haven't done 25th century designs for the other Lockbox DSC ships. It's not guaranteed, but I'd probably give it like a 99% chance.
     
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  20. DaveyNY

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    Maybe we'll get lucky and They'll make it a limited time reward like They use to do with brand new episodes.
    <fingers crossed>