Starship design history in light of Discovery

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by INACTIVEUSS Einstein, Nov 18, 2017.

  1. Henoch

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    So, who's right? Window or no window on the outside of the ship on the port side?
     
  2. King Daniel Beyond

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    If it existed it would be on the port side (by room/set placement) and have stars streaking sideways. But they go backwards and there's no window on the model.

    Turns out the window does exist on the Generations saucer crash model! Although the proportions don't match because it should be recessed into the oval below (what you see is the ceilings of the bridge and surrounding rooms)
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    Showing how it's all recessed

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    That weird black dot on the side of the bridge module lump? It's meant to be this:
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    It isn't, but they sort of tried.
     
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  3. Kemaiku

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    We both are, depending on the model used, the two physical, the toys, the like 3 CGI ones. It's on some, not on others.
     
  4. Timo

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    ...So perhaps it is provided with shutters? :devil:

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  5. Tuskin38

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    I may have mentioned this in January, but I don't recall, but according to one of the STO devs the Charon was around 9KM long, they got the info from CBS.
     
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  6. XCV330

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    Sounds like someone in the design studio wanted to beat the super star destroyers by a 1km. It's not the fleet, it's the motion.
     
  7. Tuskin38

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    The SSD is 19km long, so they didn't beat it.
     
  8. XCV330

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    ah ok. I must be thinking of the not so super star destroyer.
     
  9. Tuskin38

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    Well, the standard ones you see in the OT are around 1.6km, so they do have them beat.

    The Dreadnought from TLJ is almost 8km, maybe you're thinking of that?
     
  10. XCV330

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    might have been it. I don't have a good brain for remembering numbers, really.
     
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  11. Rahul

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    Another nice tidbit is that they actually intended for the Charon to be made of parts of that universe's Doomsday device... Which, honestly, is a pretty neat idea.
     
  12. Tuskin38

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    Yeah according to the art book, one of the original designs (not pictured in the book) was a palace built on top of the doomsday device.

    Also the Spore Sun core thing wasn't part of the original story, the lead production designer came up with it and the writers liked it.
     
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  13. Rahul

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    You mean the stuff that set the biggest stakes - "to destroy the entire Multiverse" - that was used by the DIS-crew to defeat the series' main villain, and to get back home.... was an addition by the production designer? And not the writers?
    Whaaaat?:wtf:
     
  14. Tuskin38

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    That's what the book said.
     
  15. XCV330

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    I think they got it from an artist (on deviant, i think) who does some gorgeous models of XCV type ring ships, and one used that glowing core. Since the Charon is a ring ship, of sorts, it kind of works.
     
  16. drt

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    I think some one is confused, ships and stuff are drawn up after the story exists - production designers aren’t randomly designing things that they hope get used.

    I assume the idea that destroying the life-threatening, spore-powered Charon would propel them home existed - but the details of what it looked liked were free for interpretation by the designers.
     
  17. Dukhat

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    Which lends credence to the idea that one shouldn’t always believe what’s written in a book.
     
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    Context is for kings.
     
  19. Tuskin38

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    Not really.

    Yes, exactly.

    As drt suggested, they always had the idea about the Terrans destroying the universe, they just changed how it was visually represented when they saw the concept art for the Charon.
     
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  20. Dukhat

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    I didn't realize words on paper could never be false.