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Starship design history in light of Discovery

pst said:
i like a lot of what eaves did for discovery, at least a lot of what he did has grown on me over the past year. but i can't help but wish they got somebody new to do something completely fresh. discovery deviates so much from what we expected ships to look like in this era, they might as well have gone further outside the box.
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I agree. I like Eaves work, and I know sometimes artists may browse the forum so i don't want to make anyone feel bad, but sometimes its just easy to get stuck doing the same thing over and over, especially when you have so many ships to make for the show AND you have Fuller giving odd requirements like no round nacelles. I mean.. he basically took one of two options away from Eaves right there, unless we were going to have hexa-nacelles or some other shape. I won't even get started on Season 1 Klingon ships (they don't look like garbage. They ARE garbage)

But it would have been cool if maybe they had had at least one other person doing their own designs seperately to make the fleet look a little more diverse. Or reached in their pockets and paid universal for the Kelvin model
 
Gepard said:
I fundamentally disagree with John Eaves' understanding of Starfleet vessels. They are ocean-going ships, from the age of sail and steam. They are not something Chuck Yeager would fly.

Doesn't make him a bad designer, but it does make him a designer who produces work that annoys me.
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While I totally enjoy John Eaves work, I also totally get what you mean. I do prefer Starfleet vessels to have more of a boat/ship feel than these more modern *race-car rocket plane* designs, if that makes sense. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of the Starfleet ships in DSC, but they're very... regular scifi space ships in Star Trek shapes, I guess. I miss me the ocean liners and aircraft carriers of Treks past. Just gimme one ship that looks like a boat I'd take a cruise on like the Excelsior! Just one!

But then again, the Excelsior was kind of the first to look like that, and that's a ways down the line. But then again, again, DSC is teaching us that Starfleet has gone through every possible shape and size of starship already and that design evolution isn't linear.
 
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Dukhat said:
Well, for one thing, it's based on the Excelsior, which wasn't built for 30 more years after DSC.
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2257, 2285.

Spacedock is alreay over halfway finished so the Great Experiment is likely already underway by the SCE, if not physically then the early transwarp test subjects are already flying.
 
Henoch said:
but shouldn't it be a hybrid of ENT/TOS?
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Really it should be.

Speaking of a good link--there is this design:
https://www.deviantart.com/kelso323/art/Heavy-Cruiser-2230-Proposal-506499446

I love how that saucer is made.

Misc ships: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/fed...s-a-starship-design-good-t146-s90.html#p24016

Tuskin38 said:
a clearer render of Baron Grimes' ship. Saw it on Facebook, apparently comes from one of the Eaglemoss booklets.

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SS Heorot Hall

cooleddie74 said:
It's like a D7 and a 24th century Negh'Var-class warship had a baby but the baby took a lot more after the former than it did the latter. I'm still fine with it based on what the hologram looks like.
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It is what I pictured Klingon novel ships as looking like
 
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Kemaiku said:
2257, 2285.

Spacedock is alreay over halfway finished so the Great Experiment is likely already underway by the SCE, if not physically then the early transwarp test subjects are already flying.
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But we never knew when Spacedock was built, so that's not an accurate measurement of time. And I would think that transwarp experiments (if they were even conducted that early) would not be conducted by ships that looked like the Excelsior. The reaction to the ship in STIII indicates that the design is brand-new.
 
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