Starship design history in light of Discovery

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by INACTIVEUSS Einstein, Nov 18, 2017.

  1. Tuskin38

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    Anything else new in the trailer?.

    They sort of look like Malachowski classes, but the nacelles are hanging down a lot lower, and the rear of the nacelles look almost round.
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    Because it's nearly 1:1 identical, look at her position, and even the folds in her uniform.

    Something I just read on Memory-Alpha

    https://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Malachowski_class#Background_information
    Star Trek: Discovery The Official Starships Collection issue 9 states that the ISS Cooper was intended to be a Malachowski-class Terran ship; however, due to time constraints, the ship was never seen on screen.
     
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  2. Fandango831

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    Could be Hoover-Class ships instead of Malachowski's.
     
  3. Tuskin38

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    Nacelles are too far back
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  4. Aeolusdallas

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    It's hard to make out but I kind of think they look like a Malachowskis
     
  5. Ar-Pharazon

    Ar-Pharazon Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    Are those deflector dishes hanging down from the saucers?

    Ptolmey Class Tug 1b.jpg

    Alien Guy 4a Ptolmey.jpg
     
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  6. Tuskin38

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    Look at the comparison I posted. They're not Malachowskis.

    I was thinking they could be some sort of dedicated tug
     
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  7. 137th Gebirg

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    Wow...those ships are tiny! Either that, or the Enterprise was built on the Abrams scale.
     
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  8. Tuskin38

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    The DSC Enterprise is 442 meters long according to the VFX models. The Kelvin Enterprise is 725.

    Those ships appear to be over 250 meters going by that.
     
  9. DaveyNY

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    It's most likely the exact same scene just a few moments or minutes later.
    The two ships probably show up in the background while she's talking to whoever she's talking to.
    :techman:
     
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  10. Tuskin38

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    Pike.
     
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  12. Tuskin38

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    Could be the DSC style of it.
     
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  13. Tuskin38

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    I really want to know how big the Charon is

    We’ve only got 2 points of reference, the shuttle-bay with shuttles, and when the Discovery flies through the centre, but both are at odd angles and really don’t help.
     
  14. 137th Gebirg

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    I think it was mentioned at some point that the Doomsday Machine was an inspiration for the Charon's design. Stands to reason that it's close to that size.
     
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  15. saddestmoon

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    Hmmm... that pic of the ent being towed, immediately made me think that a 1701 refit's a comin'! ;)
     
  16. Timo

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    Definitely a Ptolemic move from the artists...

    Not the exact FJ ship, of course, by virtue of scale already. But tugs ITRW come in all sizes while looking rather the same. It seems to me the front ends of the nacelles are sloped and either lacking ramscoops or having small ones (in the oOo config?) hidden beneath a sloped hood. But the aft end glow suggests Y-Wing style open trusswork and quite possibly a cylinder shape. The satisfactory whirr of backpedaling gets louder by the day...

    Timo Saloniemi
     
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  17. cooleddie74

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    That would indeed be cool. At least cosmetic alterations to the Enterprise that make her look a little more like she will in "Where No Man Has Gone Before(TOS)" eight years later. We don't know how incapacitated or damaged the Enterprise's systems are, only that Pike had to send out a distress call that was answered by Discovery.
     
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  18. Tuskin38

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    It's not backpedalling, they're correcting Bryan Fuller's mistakes, there is a difference.
     
  19. Ar-Pharazon

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    "I'm sorry, we're currently out-of-stock on the angled pylons."
    "Well, we need the Enterprise right away, what do you have in stock?"
    "We have some nice Type 4f straight pylons at the moment"
    "Fine, use those"
     
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    The tugs seem to have big beefy pylon supports on each nacelle and no neck coming down from the saucer. Their nacelles look more TOS-like. Each tug has two tractor beams emitting from the pylon areas. They might have a dish at the bottom of the saucer. They could be something like a Ptolemy class ship with beefy pylons and no central neck. A lot of squinting and imagination here. We shall see, soon.
     
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