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Stargirl to air on both DC Universe and the CW

IGN has a posted a new poster for the series that give us our first look at the JSA members Hourman, Wildcat, and Dr. Midnight, and Injustice Society members Tigress, Brainwave, Icicle, Dragon King, and Sportsmaster.
The article also features a new interview with Geoff Johns and Brec Bassinger, which features a couple of interesting new bits of information. Apparently it ended up on The CW because the head of the CW saw it and loved it, and they also revealed that there have been early talks about a Stargirl/Flash crossover in a future season.
 
So in addition to Stargirl and S.T.R.I.P.E., we're getting Yolanda Montez/Wildcat, Beth Chapel/Dr. Midnight, and Rick Tyler/Hourman. These are all characters from Roy Thomas's Infinity, Inc., which was set on the Pre-Crisis Earth-Two in which the Justice Society had been active in the '40s, and which focused on the children of the JSA's heroes forming their own superhero team in the '80s. The original Infinity, Inc. members had their own distinct superhero names and costumes (e.g. Wonder Woman & Steve Trevor's daughter Fury, Hawkman & Hawkgirl's son Scarab, Green Lantern's kids Jade and Obsidian, Atom's son Nuklon, etc.), but during the events of Crisis on Infinite Earths, in the Infinity, Inc. tie-in issues that I just happen to have read last week thanks to the Hoopla digital library, we saw these three characters introduced as the second-generation inheritors of the original JSA members Wildcat, Dr. Mid-Nite, and Hourman.

The villains are also Earth-Two characters and JSA foes, either from Golden Age comics or from Roy Thomas's '80s comics about the JSA on Earth-Two.

So now I guess I understand why the TV Crisis put Stargirl on Earth-2 -- because it's basically Infinity, Inc.: The Series.

The comments about possibly crossing over with the Flash or Supergirl confirms what I expected -- that this show airing on The CW would be the impetus for revealing the continued existence of the multiverse to the Earth-Prime characters, so that such crossovers could happen.
 
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I was just wondering the other day how they are going to handle the CW/DC Universe air dates if CW showings have to be preempted for some reason. Are they going to hold off on DCU too to keep them lined up or will they just let them be one week a head?
 
Christopher said:
So in addition to Stargirl and S.T.R.I.P.E., we're getting Yolanda Montez/Wildcat, Beth Chapel/Dr. Midnight, and Rick Tyler/Hourman. These are all characters from Roy Thomas's Infinity, Inc., which was set on the Pre-Crisis Earth-Two in which the Justice Society had been active in the '40s, and which focused on the children of the JSA's heroes forming their own superhero team in the '80s. The original Infinity, Inc. members had their own distinct superhero names and costumes (e.g. Wonder Woman & Steve Trevor's daughter Fury, Hawkman & Hawkgirl's son Scarab, Green Lantern's kids Jade and Obsidian, Atom's son Nuklon, etc.), but during the events of Crisis on Infinite Earths, in the Infinity, Inc. tie-in issues that I just happen to have read last week thanks to the Hoopla digital library, we saw these three characters introduced as the second-generation inheritors of the original JSA members Wildcat, Dr. Mid-Nite, and Hourman.

The villains are also Earth-Two characters and JSA foes, either from Golden Age comics or from Roy Thomas's '80s comics about the JSA on Earth-Two.

So now I guess I understand why the TV Crisis put Stargirl on Earth-2 -- because it's basically Infinity, Inc.: The Series.

The comments about possibly crossing over with the Flash or Supergirl confirms what I expected -- that this show airing on The CW would be the impetus for revealing the continued existence of the multiverse to the Earth-Prime characters, so that such crossovers could happen.
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IIRC, Wildcat was part of the original pitch as "La Garra" but never appeared in costume preCrisis outside of an ad for the book, but did appear as Yolanda. It's possible Rick and Beth were in the preCrisis plans too.
 
Nerys Myk said:
IIRC, Wildcat was part of the original pitch as "La Garra" but never appeared in costume preCrisis outside of an ad for the book, but did appear as Yolanda. It's possible Rick and Beth were in the preCrisis plans too.
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Yes, it was clear from her appearance in Crisis that Yolanda was a pre-established character who chose to take on the Wildcat mantle in Ted Grant's name after he was crippled during the Crisis. According to the DC Database, Yolanda debuted in Infinity Inc. in #12, half a year before the Crisis crossovers began. However, Beth Chapel and Rick Tyler debuted in #19 & #20 respectively, in the early days of the Crisis, and both debuted in their superhero personas in #21.
 
Christopher said:
Yes, it was clear from her appearance in Crisis that Yolanda was a pre-established character who chose to take on the Wildcat mantle in Ted Grant's name after he was crippled during the Crisis. According to the DC Database, Yolanda debuted in Infinity Inc. in #12, half a year before the Crisis crossovers began. However, Beth Chapel and Rick Tyler debuted in #19 & #20 respectively, in the early days of the Crisis, and both debuted in their superhero personas in #21.
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I'm just wondering of Rick and Beth were in the pipeline before Crisis. Only Roy Thomas would know for sure.
 
Nerys Myk said:
I'm just wondering of Rick and Beth were in the pipeline before Crisis. Only Roy Thomas would know for sure.
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Hard to say. But it seems notable that while the original Infinity Inc. team consisted of characters with new code names, the second crop introduced around Crisis were new versions of Justice Society hero identities. Which suggests that maybe they belatedly decided to change tack and appeal more to nostalgia by reviving familiar code names, implying that the characters may not have been in the original plans.

Anyway, I just find it ironic that these characters who emerged in the comics at the same time Earth-Two ceased to exist in the Crisis are now being introduced on an "Earth-2" TV show shortly after the Crisis. It's the same and the opposite all at once.
 
JD said:
IGN has a posted a new poster for the series that give us our first look at the JSA members Hourman, Wildcat, and Dr. Midnight, and Injustice Society members Tigress, Brainwave, Icicle, Dragon King, and Sportsmaster.
The article also features a new interview with Geoff Johns and Brec Bassinger, which features a couple of interesting new bits of information. Apparently it ended up on The CW because the head of the CW saw it and loved it, and they also revealed that there have been early talks about a Stargirl/Flash crossover in a future season.
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So, are all the main heroes on that poster (except STRIPE) children? "Doctor Mid-Nite" and "Hourman" look younger then Stargirl, although that might just be the picture.

This is a definite pass. The JSA is my favorite hero team, and the CW completely ruined it the first time they used a version of them by making them shitty soldiers in Legends of tomorrow. Even if this isn't primarily a CW made show, it looks to also be giving the middle finger to the team, even if its doing it differently. As much as I love Geoff Johns' JSA run, and consider Star Girl to be one of the best teen heroes that DC has made in my life time, this looks like generic non-Arrowverse CW shit mixed with YA garbage, along with being a "fuck you" to the JSA. I hope it dies faster then Swamp Thing, although knowing DC and the CW it will probably last longer then Smallville (which was, coincidentally, the only DC show to do the JSA justice).
 
kirk55555 said:
So, are all the main heroes on that poster (except STRIPE) children? "Doctor Mid-Nite" and "Hourman" look younger then Stargirl, although that might just be the picture.

This is a definite pass. The JSA is my favorite hero team, and the CW completely ruined it the first time they used a version of them by making them shitty soldiers in Legends of tomorrow. Even if this isn't primarily a CW made show, it looks to also be giving the middle finger to the team, even if its doing it differently. As much as I love Geoff Johns' JSA run, and consider Star Girl to be one of the best teen heroes that DC has made in my life time, this looks like generic non-Arrowverse CW shit mixed with YA garbage, along with being a "fuck you" to the JSA. I hope it dies faster then Swamp Thing, although knowing DC and the CW it will probably last longer then Smallville (which was, coincidentally, the only DC show to do the JSA justice).
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So. Much. Yawn.
 
Ok, this is the best trailer yet. (Enjoy, kirk55555!)
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This show looks like it might be a lot of fun. Plus it will actually be able to, you know, AIR EPISODES, since I gather the entire season is already in the can. :techman:
 
The new trailer suggests that the young Wildcat and Hourman just take their predecessors' costumes from the JSA museum as a makeshift thing. That reinforces what I've been suspecting, that they'll upgrade to more modern costumes before long, perhaps closer to the costumes they had in Infinity Inc.
 
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