Stargate: Universe: Too soon?

[Jax]

^ SGA was canned because MGM wanted a quick buck from movies because I don't believe for a second that any sort of 6th season would not of been profitable for MGM and then they could of had DVD movies but quick greed got to them.

 

[bigdaddy]

^ SGA was canned because MGM wanted a quick buck from movies because I don't believe for a second that any sort of 6th season would not of been profitable for MGM and then they could of had DVD movies but quick greed got to them.

That doesn't make sense. I think MGM would still make money from a season 6, they just figured they might make more from a movie.

I think the real reason it was canceled was to make room for the new show. I'm sure Sci-fi wanted another season and MGM said no.

 

[ATimson]

My prediction on SGU is that they might retain the "newer" writers such as Gero and Binder, but bring in some fresh blood as well. Mallozzi and Mullie I can see not coming back due to TPTB wanting fresh takes and them wanting to move on (just speculation on my part). However, I can see M&M being involved with future DVD movies.

M&M are definitely involved in the first Atlantis movie. Though if TPTB are wanting fresh takes, then they themselves should step down; Wright and Cooper have been around for three years longer than M&M.

 

[Neroon]

Why does this thread sound so flipping familiar? Because I see so many of the same combatants saying the same thing ad nauseum.

Thread closed while I decide who deserve the infractions.

 

[Neroon]

1 infraction for trolling to Kpnuts: Link and Link

1 infraction for trolling to bigdaddy: Link and Link

1 infraction for trolling to DWF: Link


The thread has obviously been re-opened, now. Comments on the moderator actions need to go to PM.

 

[Broccoli]

My prediction on SGU is that they might retain the "newer" writers such as Gero and Binder, but bring in some fresh blood as well. Mallozzi and Mullie I can see not coming back due to TPTB wanting fresh takes and them wanting to move on (just speculation on my part). However, I can see M&M being involved with future DVD movies.

M&M are definitely involved in the first Atlantis movie. Though if TPTB are wanting fresh takes, then they themselves should step down; Wright and Cooper have been around for three years longer than M&M.

Well, you have a valid point on W&C. However, if memory serves (and I could be wrong about this), the network/prod. company came to them to develop another show.

Now, one thing that the execs. do is design the tone and/or story for the season/show. Other writers contribute to that, no doubt, but the overall say comes from them (however, from interviews from various writing staffers, it seems like the Stargate writing room is really collaborative/good place to work). Personally, I never really thought the story arcs for SG-1 or Atlantis were really that bad. The stuff where it got dicey seemed to be from various episodes that didn't have ambition in the particular story they were telling. New writers that draft out the overall story that W&C craft might bring it up. Some of the best episodes come from shows that have nothing to do with the thrust of a season, imo.

I dunno. For all we know, they might bring in new peoples to see who they like, the fans like, and writes the best episodes and promote them up as showrunners for the following seasons while they take a back seat like they did for Atlantis season 4 & 5.

 

[Captain Shaw]

http://gateworld.net/news/2008/09/istargate_universei_to_film_in_f.shtml
SGU starts filming in feb.

 

[Harvey]

Well, another Vancouver shoot. There goes Temis' dream of New Mexico, I guess.

 

[Samurai8472]

Pinetrees, pinetrees and more pinetrees oh and the renaissance set.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Well, another Vancouver shoot. There goes Temis' dream of New Mexico, I guess.

I never thought it would really happen.

I'll wait on the casting. If it looks bad, sayonara.

 

[cylkoth]

Pinetrees, pinetrees and more pinetrees oh and the renaissance set.

Fortunately, the village set will be decommissioned, as the new sets are slated for that stage. Stargate Command and Atlantis Gateroom sets remain on their respective stages.

Grasping for conspiracies here, but if filming's slated for February, with sets to be constructed this fall, then doesn't that mean that the design phase has been in gear for some time...doesn't that indicate there's been movement on the show-vis a vis, whether it would be picked up, for longer than what's been portrayed?

 

[Samurai8472]

Who knows, maybe SG:U would have premiered alongside the 6th season of Atlantis. but MGM said no and sacrificed Atlantis to devote full attention on Universe?

 

[blockaderunner]

Who knows, maybe SG:U would have premiered alongside the 6th season of Atlantis. but MGM said no and sacrificed Atlantis to devote full attention on Universe?

I guess that's a good thing, as opposed to Trek stretching its writers way thin with two series running cocurrently alsong with odd movie hitting the theatres.

 

[DWF]

Pinetrees, pinetrees and more pinetrees oh and the renaissance set.

Fortunately, the village set will be decommissioned, as the new sets are slated for that stage. Stargate Command and Atlantis Gateroom sets remain on their respective stages.

Grasping for conspiracies here, but if filming's slated for February, with sets to be constructed this fall, then doesn't that mean that the design phase has been in gear for some time...doesn't that indicate there's been movement on the show-vis a vis, whether it would be picked up, for longer than what's been portrayed?

I think the announcement for Universe was put on hold til after the sales figures for The Ark Of Truth and Continuum came out.

 

[ATimson]

Grasping for conspiracies here, but if filming's slated for February, with sets to be constructed this fall, then doesn't that mean that the design phase has been in gear for some time...doesn't that indicate there's been movement on the show-vis a vis, whether it would be picked up, for longer than what's been portrayed?

It could be that there was an agreement of concept, and MGM gave the go-ahead for preliminary work while the two worked out the budgetary details.

It's probably also worth pointing out that they have, what, about three times as long before shooting starts as they ever did for development between seasons?

 

[Samurai8472]

Who knows, maybe SG:U would have premiered alongside the 6th season of Atlantis. but MGM said no and sacrificed Atlantis to devote full attention on Universe?

I guess that's a good thing, as opposed to Trek stretching its writers way thin with two series running cocurrently along with odd movie hitting the theatres.

I forgot where the article is but I remember reading somewhere that when SG-1 and Atlantis ran side by side the writers were writing about 42 scripts but with SG-1 gone the load was dropped.

I thought they did fine with SG-1 and Atlantis running alongside each other

 

[ATimson]

I forgot where the article is but I remember reading somewhere that when SG-1 and Atlantis ran side by side the writers were writing about 42 scripts but with SG-1 gone the load was dropped.

They'd also hired another 3-4 writers, though--Binder, Gero, and McCullough come to mind.

 

[witchie]

cylkoth,

I agree with you. I think SGU has been in the concept stage a helluva lot longer than TPTB want to admit. Can't admit it, of course. Don't want to lose potential viewers by letting them know you sacrificed one show for another.

 

[DWF]

cylkoth,

I agree with you. I think SGU has been in the concept stage a helluva lot longer than TPTB want to admit. Can't admit it, of course. Don't want to lose potential viewers by letting them know you sacrificed one show for another.

Of course it's been in the concept stage for a year but they knew for some time that they needed a decision from the studio for a go ahead on Stargate Universe.

http://stargate-sg1-solutions.com/blog/?p=1396

In a brief interview with Straight.com, “Vancouver’s Online Source”, Brad Wright talks about how Vancouver has changed over the time since Stargate SG-1, his creation along with Jonathan Glassner’s, debuted in 1997. Lost are the financial benefit of stretching the American dollar in Canada and many of the filming locations, which have been converted into condo developments. Even so, Wright believes that the film industry will not leave Vancouver, and apparently, neither will Stargate.
Ultimately, though, it is up to the studio to decide which path to take. Wright is preparing a script for a third movie, but no official green light has been announced, and he has already pitched Stargate Universe to the Sci Fi Channel, but the cost of the show might be too high for them. Straight.com’s Blaine Kyllo said that MGM “wants another spinoff series and another pair of movies” and that “Wright said the only decision to be made is whether to make two more movies or start up another series.” Apparently, they can’t do both concurrently, so MGM must choose. Wright has the luxury to be the creative behind both and told Kyllo over the phone, “All I can do is take care of my own little corner of the universe up here and make sure that we have more product being made and shows being put into the pipeline.”

 

[Broccoli]

Who knows, maybe SG:U would have premiered alongside the 6th season of Atlantis. but MGM said no and sacrificed Atlantis to devote full attention on Universe?

I guess that's a good thing, as opposed to Trek stretching its writers way thin with two series running cocurrently alsong with odd movie hitting the theatres.

Well, that really can't compare. Other production stuff aside, the writing teams of DS9 and VGR were completely different with very little, if any, crossover. SG-1 and SGA shared the same writing team.

cylkoth,

I agree with you. I think SGU has been in the concept stage a helluva lot longer than TPTB want to admit.

Of course it has. W&C have been working on it for the past year and a half. It's been reported as such. No one is hiding anything here.