Stargate Universe doesn't suck!

[Robert Maxwell]

Once onboard Destiny, Rush claimed he was put into charge. And later on Wray's superior told her to take command.

Which means nothing when the people with the guns believe they are in command, y'know?

Especially when the alternative is letting the IOA be in charge aka Stargate's council of useless gits designed to make the base commander character look good by rebelling against them.

Yeah, since IOA were only introduced to be thorns in the side of the SGC, trying to rehabilitate them into competent leaders sure didn't work very well.

 

[Corran Horn]

They did (sort of.) Young was deemed to be in command of the mission, by General O'Neill himself. Rush and Wray simply uh, "disagreed" with that.

Once onboard Destiny, Rush claimed he was put into charge. And later on Wray's superior told her to take command.

Which means nothing when the people with the guns believe they are in command, y'know?

Since Rush screwed them all by dialing the ship in the first place as the planet was crumbling down I'm amazed they didn't space him right away.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

Which means nothing when the people with the guns believe they are in command, y'know?

Especially when the alternative is letting the IOA be in charge aka Stargate's council of useless gits designed to make the base commander character look good by rebelling against them.

Yeah, since IOA were only introduced to be thorns in the side of the SGC, trying to rehabilitate them into competent leaders sure didn't work very well.

Well it probably would have helped if they hadn't continued their only being a pain in the ass shtick on Atlantis, and then have Universe suddenly try to pass them off competent leaders with pretty much nothing to show it.

Kind of like how weird it was that the Lucian Alliance went from minor threat to major threat off screen in just two years.

 

[The Wormhole]

The thing with the IOA is that by the time SGU rolled around they really should have been disbanded. At the best of times, they're idiot bureaucrats with their heads up their asses, at the worst they're actual villains (like in Ark of Truth).

And how do the Lucian Alliance even pose a threat to Earth anyway? They fly around in Goa'uld Ha'taks, which an Earth ship enhanced with Asgard technology should be able to make short work of anyway.

 

[DWF]

The Lucian Alliance clearly had some kind of spy network, that's how they knew about the base in Air and where to attack earth. But then earth's defenses were down a bit as well after attacks by the Ori and the Wraith. They come off as little more than pirates though.

 

[bigdaddy]

The thing with the IOA is that by the time SGU rolled around they really should have been disbanded. At the best of times, they're idiot bureaucrats with their heads up their asses, at the worst they're actual villains (like in Ark of Truth).

And how do the Lucian Alliance even pose a threat to Earth anyway? They fly around in Goa'uld Ha'taks, which an Earth ship enhanced with Asgard technology should be able to make short work of anyway.

I hate the Lucian Alliance they are completely useless as a bad guy. I'm still trying to figure out why The Pentagon or SGC or whatever was attacked didn't have a force field around it or something.

It's why I like SGU, all the fancy Atlantis / Ancient and Asgard tech doesn't matter, they had to fight off real alien threats again. It was nice.

If you think Stargate would have said that Hitler was just misunderstood that DWF would defend the writers? Honestly you don't have to agree with everything the writers did in 17 seasons.

 

[DWF]

I've never said that I agree with everything they've ever done. I just can't agree that the conflict was forced, you put people tegether in the situation they were on Univese and you'll get conflict and the source of most of iit was Rush.

 

[MacLeod]

Conversely Rush seemed to be one of the more competant people on Destiny.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

People should have listened to Rush, but Rush didn't need to be in charge. Rush seemed to imagine those were the same thing, but his behavior demonstrated that he was too obsessive and self-absorbed to be responsible for the well-being of other people.

Rush was definitely the most competent person on the ship, but also a little unhinged, so not exactly the right person to trust with command.

I liked Wray although everyone else seemed to hate her.

 

[Ensign_Redshirt]

SGU tried maybe a bit too hard to imitate nuBSG and be "darker and edgier", to the point it became clichéd. To make an attempt at a more "realistic" version of the Stargate Universe and to go into a different direction than the previous shows was in itself not a bad idea though.

 

[Sindatur]

People should have listened to Rush, but Rush didn't need to be in charge. Rush seemed to imagine those were the same thing, but his behavior demonstrated that he was too obsessive and self-absorbed to be responsible for the well-being of other people.

Rush was definitely the most competent person on the ship, but also a little unhinged, so not exactly the right person to trust with command.

I liked Wray although everyone else seemed to hate her.

Heh, and then on the other side, you had Young, who wasn't very competent and was a little unhinged, but was in charge.

First time through Wray (And Greer) in S1, were really annoying to me, but, on a rewatch, I really liked them, even in S1.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

People should have listened to Rush, but Rush didn't need to be in charge. Rush seemed to imagine those were the same thing, but his behavior demonstrated that he was too obsessive and self-absorbed to be responsible for the well-being of other people.

Rush was definitely the most competent person on the ship, but also a little unhinged, so not exactly the right person to trust with command.

I liked Wray although everyone else seemed to hate her.

Heh, and then on the other side, you had Young, who wasn't very competent and was a little unhinged, but was in charge.

First time through Wray (And Greer) in S1, were really annoying to me, but, on a rewatch, I really liked them, even in S1.

True, Young wasn't exactly a great example of leadership, himself.

One of the things that never made sense to me with SGU was the repeated theme of "none of us are supposed to be here." Like, OK, you were all recruited/volunteered to be part of a project to figure out where this 9-part(?) stargate address goes, and most of the people on the base did escape to Destiny, so if the people on that planet weren't the ones who were ultimately going to go through the gate and find what was on the other side, who was? The show never answered this question, in which case they should have maybe stopped saying "we were never supposed to be here," because there was apparently no one more qualified.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

People should have listened to Rush, but Rush didn't need to be in charge. Rush seemed to imagine those were the same thing, but his behavior demonstrated that he was too obsessive and self-absorbed to be responsible for the well-being of other people.

Rush was definitely the most competent person on the ship, but also a little unhinged, so not exactly the right person to trust with command.

I liked Wray although everyone else seemed to hate her.

Heh, and then on the other side, you had Young, who wasn't very competent and was a little unhinged, but was in charge.

First time through Wray (And Greer) in S1, were really annoying to me, but, on a rewatch, I really liked them, even in S1.

True, Young wasn't exactly a great example of leadership, himself.

One of the things that never made sense to me with SGU was the repeated theme of "none of us are supposed to be here." Like, OK, you were all recruited/volunteered to be part of a project to figure out where this 9-part(?) stargate address goes, and most of the people on the base did escape to Destiny, so if the people on that planet weren't the ones who were ultimately going to go through the gate and find what was on the other side, who was? The show never answered this question, in which case they should have maybe stopped saying "we were never supposed to be here," because there was apparently no one more qualified.

Plus it kind of starts to come off a bit as whining since no one else is going to show up to do the job, so its up to them and they need to start coming to terms with that.

Besides I doubt Jack O'Neil and Daniel Jackson were qualified to fight a galactic empire posing as ancient gods and they were pretty good at it.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

Heh, and then on the other side, you had Young, who wasn't very competent and was a little unhinged, but was in charge.

First time through Wray (And Greer) in S1, were really annoying to me, but, on a rewatch, I really liked them, even in S1.

True, Young wasn't exactly a great example of leadership, himself.

One of the things that never made sense to me with SGU was the repeated theme of "none of us are supposed to be here." Like, OK, you were all recruited/volunteered to be part of a project to figure out where this 9-part(?) stargate address goes, and most of the people on the base did escape to Destiny, so if the people on that planet weren't the ones who were ultimately going to go through the gate and find what was on the other side, who was? The show never answered this question, in which case they should have maybe stopped saying "we were never supposed to be here," because there was apparently no one more qualified.

Plus it kind of starts to come off a bit as whining since no one else is going to show up to do the job, so its up to them and they need to start coming to terms with that.

Besides I doubt Jack O'Neil and Daniel Jackson were qualified to fight a galactic empire posing as ancient gods and they were pretty good at it.

Yeah.

Oh, I think I am misremembering, because I believe Telford was supposed to ultimately lead the mission through the gate. He just happened to be dogfighting the Lucian Alliance at the time.

Still, he wasn't exactly the best choice, either. Seriously, why is the USAF struggling so hard for competent leaders for a top secret, intergalactic mission?!

 

[Corran Horn]

People should have listened to Rush, but Rush didn't need to be in charge. Rush seemed to imagine those were the same thing, but his behavior demonstrated that he was too obsessive and self-absorbed to be responsible for the well-being of other people.

Rush was definitely the most competent person on the ship, but also a little unhinged, so not exactly the right person to trust with command.

I liked Wray although everyone else seemed to hate her.

Heh, and then on the other side, you had Young, who wasn't very competent and was a little unhinged, but was in charge.

First time through Wray (And Greer) in S1, were really annoying to me, but, on a rewatch, I really liked them, even in S1.

True, Young wasn't exactly a great example of leadership, himself.

Maybe he got a Commander Sisko'd a little bit? Let's put this guy who's kind of got his issues out in this place where he might get a fresh start and probably won't hurt anything? It's true-enough that they did end up dialing the 9th chevron with Eli's help but who knows how long it had been a non-starter?

(how long it had been going on, etc, might have been in the show - it's been a while)

 

[Skywalker]

I was not the biggest fan of Young. Honestly I kind of felt having a colonel around, even a dysfunctional one, kind of hurt the concept of the group not really being the ones who were supposed to be on Destiny. I think the story would have been better if the military faction on the ship had been led by a junior officer forced into a command role. I think that also would have made Telford's concerns a little more understandable, rather than him basically just whining because he was supposed to be on Destiny, not Young.

 

[DWF]

Conversely Rush seemed to be one of the more competant people on Destiny.

And yet he needed Eli to figure out the ninth chevron, truthfully his ego was bigger than his actual competance.

 

[bigdaddy]

One of the things that never made sense to me with SGU was the repeated theme of "none of us are supposed to be here." Like, OK, you were all recruited/volunteered to be part of a project to figure out where this 9-part(?) stargate address goes, and most of the people on the base did escape to Destiny, so if the people on that planet weren't the ones who were ultimately going to go through the gate and find what was on the other side, who was? The show never answered this question, in which case they should have maybe stopped saying "we were never supposed to be here," because there was apparently no one more qualified.

I never understood this either, where are all the people that were going to go on the mission? When they found Atlantis, they had the team in place and ready to go. I understand that they isn't think they were leaving yet, but where is the team that was supposed to go? Where did they think it was going? I understand some of the people shouldn't be there, did they give the rest of the team a vacation?

 

[DWF]

One of the things that never made sense to me with SGU was the repeated theme of "none of us are supposed to be here." Like, OK, you were all recruited/volunteered to be part of a project to figure out where this 9-part(?) stargate address goes, and most of the people on the base did escape to Destiny, so if the people on that planet weren't the ones who were ultimately going to go through the gate and find what was on the other side, who was? The show never answered this question, in which case they should have maybe stopped saying "we were never supposed to be here," because there was apparently no one more qualified.

I never understood this either, where are all the people that were going to go on the mission? When they found Atlantis, they had the team in place and ready to go. I understand that they isn't think they were leaving yet, but where is the team that was supposed to go? Where did they think it was going? I understand some of the people shouldn't be there, did they give the rest of the team a vacation?

There were looking for Atlantis for one thing. About the ninth chevron they no idea where it would lead, O'Neill had put Young in charge but he passed on it and Telford was given command. It's likely Telford was going to have a small team. And really it seemed like only Rush wasn't surprised to find himself on Destiny, but outside of Rush nobody was really supposed to be there.

 

[bigdaddy]

I know they didn't know where they were going, but still, you would still need at least like 25 people for a decent team and they don't have that many decent ones at the base? They had to realize it went somewhere far far far away.