Stargate Universe doesn't suck!

[bigdaddy]

SG-1 ended with the Goul'd (Am I even spelling that right?) and the Ori were some shitty spinoff. Which sucks because I loved Vala in season 10.

And whatever happened to Atlantis? Do we ever figure it out? It can't stay in the bay, which was city to begin with. The idea for season 6 / movie was to have to go back and kill the Wraith.

I finished it, I would love to see what the point of the show was and the meaning of the universe.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

On another Stargate related note, what are people's Furling theories?

Could the Furlings be the Spirits aliens?

 

[sttngfan1701d]

I don't get why they just didn't adapt the proposed Atlantis movie to a novel or comic book. Or did they? I stopped following the saga several years ago after Joe Malozzi was saying something about "There may be future plans" blah blah.

The dang script was written. Did it just sit there untouched? I would've liked to know what was to happen in it. And the 3rd SG-1 movie, for that matter.

Edit: I read what "Extinction" was supposed to be. Too bad....I would liked to've seen that.

 

[bigdaddy]

I don't get why they just didn't adapt the proposed Atlantis movie to a novel or comic book. Or did they? I stopped following the saga several years ago after Joe Malozzi was saying something about "There may be future plans" blah blah.

The dang script was written. Did it just sit there untouched? I would've liked to know what was to happen in it. And the 3rd SG-1 movie, for that matter.

Edit: I read what "Extinction" was supposed to be. Too bad....I would liked to've seen that.

They don't own the Stargate rights so tree are probably legal issues with comic books or something. This was all happening she MGM was having some issues with money.

The third SG-1 movie was supposed to feature Jack heavily and it seems maybe finally reveal the Stargate problem.

 

[The Wormhole]

I don't get why they just didn't adapt the proposed Atlantis movie to a novel or comic book. Or did they? I stopped following the saga several years ago after Joe Malozzi was saying something about "There may be future plans" blah blah.

The dang script was written. Did it just sit there untouched?

Fandemonium (who held the license to Stargate novels while SG-1 and Atlantis were in production) did their own post-finale Atlantis novels which took the story in their own direction, although both do essentially have a common starting point, with Atlantis returning to the Pegasus galaxy.

Which never made much sense to me. Even if the IOA or SGC or Homeworld Command had a continued interest in the Pegasus galaxy, wouldn't they just send a ship like the Daedalus on the occasional recon mission, with maybe a base like Icarus or the Alpha Site or whatever built on a Pegasus planet if any kind of permanent outpost was needed. Why would they send the city itself back?

Although, Extinction (which was adapted from a potential sixth season premiere) does provide an explanation, although it's unbelievably stupid. Supposedly, the city's self-destruct is triggered if it spends too much time outside Pegasus, and can only be deactivated by returning to Pegasus.

 

[Kelthaz]

Stargate Universe was a show for adults written by teenagers and that was it's greatest flaw. Forced conflict, lots of yelling, immature attitude towards sex and relationships, constant backstabbing, and extreme darkness (the literal kind here).

 

[bigdaddy]

Although, Extinction (which was adapted from a potential sixth season premiere) does provide an explanation, although it's unbelievably stupid. Supposedly, the city's self-destruct is triggered if it spends too much time outside Pegasus, and can only be deactivated by returning to Pegasus.

That is the silliest, and just plain dumbest plot I have ever heard, and I watched Ark of Truth twice! (Replicators... again.) I'm really glad that isn't canon, even though we will never get any continuations anyways.

It would make more sense to have the ship land on the Moon and just beam people from the Moon to Earth.

Showtime for years said they would love to have Stargate back. I wonder if that's still the case. But they would need completely new show runners, but I don't understand why Stargate can't work anymore.

I also hope they never make a new trilogy, that seems like the dumbest idea for a studio to do.

 

[DWF]

Any new movies won't have any connection to the TV franchise. And any return to TV would somebody like Brad Wright or Jonathan Glassner who saw the potiental in Stargate and wanted to turn it into a series.

I find complaints about the conflict on Universe rather odd though. They were in a similar situation to Voyager and they didn't have the conflict on the ship that we saw on Destiny.

 

[bigdaddy]

Any new movies won't have any connection to the TV franchise. And any return to TV would somebody like Brad Wright or Jonathan Glassner who saw the potiental in Stargate and wanted to turn it into a series.

I find complaints about the conflict on Universe rather odd though. They were in a similar situation to Voyager and they didn't have the conflict on the ship that we saw on Destiny.

Voyager should have had more conflict, and Universe's conflict isn't the problem, it was just lame. There was still conflict in the second season but not nearly as bad / lame.

And if you really think there is ever going to be the sequels / reboot to the movies I have land o nthe Moon to sell you.

 

[JarodRussell]

The intentional concept of incompetent characters just annoyed me. I couldn't stand watching this show.

I mean it even went so far that the incompetent main characters often needed to get help from the more competent guest stars from the previous 2 shows. I know it was intentional, but that didn't help the show.

And the forced intrigue drama ALL. THE. TIME. I get it, the guys and girls are not supposed to get along. Stop it already.

 

[DWF]

Any new movies won't have any connection to the TV franchise. And any return to TV would somebody like Brad Wright or Jonathan Glassner who saw the potiental in Stargate and wanted to turn it into a series.

I find complaints about the conflict on Universe rather odd though. They were in a similar situation to Voyager and they didn't have the conflict on the ship that we saw on Destiny.

Voyager should have had more conflict, and Universe's conflict isn't the problem, it was just lame. There was still conflict in the second season but not nearly as bad / lame.

And if you really think there is ever going to be the sequels / reboot to the movies I have land o nthe Moon to sell you.

I didn't think the Rush/Young conflict was forced, Rush was written as being secretive and not a very caring person, as you could see the double ship's crew got along just fine without him. The characters were flawed that was something new for a Stargate series.

And I didn't say I was expecting a sequel or rebot of Stargate all I was saying is what it would take. Maybe somebody will remake Stargate, but it would somebody with some vision.

 

[DWF]

The intentional concept of incompetent characters just annoyed me. I couldn't stand watching this show.

I mean it even went so far that the incompetent main characters often needed to get help from the more competent guest stars from the previous 2 shows. I know it was intentional, but that didn't help the show.

And the forced intrigue drama ALL. THE. TIME. I get it, the guys and girls are not supposed to get along. Stop it already.

None of them were competent with Ancient technology and they really weren't meant to be there in the first place. Had Rush obeyed orders and told Eli to dial earth they'd never be on the ship in the first place.

 

[The Wormhole]

Any new movies won't have any connection to the TV franchise. And any return to TV would somebody like Brad Wright or Jonathan Glassner who saw the potiental in Stargate and wanted to turn it into a series.

I find complaints about the conflict on Universe rather odd though. They were in a similar situation to Voyager and they didn't have the conflict on the ship that we saw on Destiny.

Conflict itself wasn't the issue so much as the fact the conflict was very forced. Halfway through the first season we get a military vs. civilian story which just comes out of nowhere and makes little sense at all. The civilians want to be in charge because in free democratic countries the military answers to civilians. This ignores the very simple fact every civilian on the show was hired to do work for the military, and when they did so they voluntarily signed a contract stating they accept the authority of their military commander.

 

[DWF]

Any new movies won't have any connection to the TV franchise. And any return to TV would somebody like Brad Wright or Jonathan Glassner who saw the potiental in Stargate and wanted to turn it into a series.

I find complaints about the conflict on Universe rather odd though. They were in a similar situation to Voyager and they didn't have the conflict on the ship that we saw on Destiny.

Conflict itself wasn't the issue so much as the fact the conflict was very forced. Halfway through the first season we get a military vs. civilian story which just comes out of nowhere and makes little sense at all. The civilians want to be in charge because in free democratic countries the military answers to civilians. This ignores the very simple fact every civilian on the show was hired to do work for the military, and when they did so they voluntarily signed a contract stating they accept the authority of their military commander.

The conflict started in the very first ep. when Rush told Eli to dial Destiny rather than earth, then Young made the mistake of leaving Rush behind. Of course it wasn't much of a mistake but it was Chloe who in the end paid the price for Young's actions. The conflict in the end served a purpose although it was always clear from the start. Still it was Rush who was at the center of all of the conflict and as I said we saw towards of the series that their double got along just fine without him. The conflist didn't feel forced to me and it had it's uses later on in the second season.

 

[bigdaddy]

It was forced, pretty much everyone but you agrees with that it was horribly forced.

I understand not everyone liking each other, a little drama is fine, but it was too much. Young's wife and girlfriend drama was just bad. It's clear the writers thought so too because they really dialed bad the bad drama for season two.

It also doesn't help you have over drama story lines with a cast that can't act.

In a way it's like Enterprise, but with a point. Enterprise looked great, the production values were amazing, but the plot lines were horrible and the cast couldn't act out of a box.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

Any new movies won't have any connection to the TV franchise. And any return to TV would somebody like Brad Wright or Jonathan Glassner who saw the potiental in Stargate and wanted to turn it into a series.

I find complaints about the conflict on Universe rather odd though. They were in a similar situation to Voyager and they didn't have the conflict on the ship that we saw on Destiny.

Conflict itself wasn't the issue so much as the fact the conflict was very forced. Halfway through the first season we get a military vs. civilian story which just comes out of nowhere and makes little sense at all. The civilians want to be in charge because in free democratic countries the military answers to civilians. This ignores the very simple fact every civilian on the show was hired to do work for the military, and when they did so they voluntarily signed a contract stating they accept the authority of their military commander.

Or the fact that they could easily solve the conflict by just freaking asking Earth who's in charge.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

Any new movies won't have any connection to the TV franchise. And any return to TV would somebody like Brad Wright or Jonathan Glassner who saw the potiental in Stargate and wanted to turn it into a series.

I find complaints about the conflict on Universe rather odd though. They were in a similar situation to Voyager and they didn't have the conflict on the ship that we saw on Destiny.

Conflict itself wasn't the issue so much as the fact the conflict was very forced. Halfway through the first season we get a military vs. civilian story which just comes out of nowhere and makes little sense at all. The civilians want to be in charge because in free democratic countries the military answers to civilians. This ignores the very simple fact every civilian on the show was hired to do work for the military, and when they did so they voluntarily signed a contract stating they accept the authority of their military commander.

Or the fact that they could easily solve the conflict by just freaking asking Earth who's in charge.

They did (sort of.) Young was deemed to be in command of the mission, by General O'Neill himself. Rush and Wray simply uh, "disagreed" with that.

 

[DWF]

Conflict itself wasn't the issue so much as the fact the conflict was very forced. Halfway through the first season we get a military vs. civilian story which just comes out of nowhere and makes little sense at all. The civilians want to be in charge because in free democratic countries the military answers to civilians. This ignores the very simple fact every civilian on the show was hired to do work for the military, and when they did so they voluntarily signed a contract stating they accept the authority of their military commander.

Or the fact that they could easily solve the conflict by just freaking asking Earth who's in charge.

They did (sort of.) Young was deemed to be in command of the mission, by General O'Neill himself. Rush and Wray simply uh, "disagreed" with that.

Once onboard Destiny, Rush claimed he was put into charge. And later on Wray's superior told her to take command.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

Or the fact that they could easily solve the conflict by just freaking asking Earth who's in charge.

They did (sort of.) Young was deemed to be in command of the mission, by General O'Neill himself. Rush and Wray simply uh, "disagreed" with that.

Once onboard Destiny, Rush claimed he was put into charge. And later on Wray's superior told her to take command.

Which means nothing when the people with the guns believe they are in command, y'know?

 

[Hartzilla2007]

They did (sort of.) Young was deemed to be in command of the mission, by General O'Neill himself. Rush and Wray simply uh, "disagreed" with that.

Once onboard Destiny, Rush claimed he was put into charge. And later on Wray's superior told her to take command.

Which means nothing when the people with the guns believe they are in command, y'know?

Especially when the alternative is letting the IOA be in charge aka Stargate's council of useless gits designed to make the base commander character look good by rebelling against them.