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Starfleet Uniform Code

Turnabout is fair play. When rewatching DS9 season 1 a bit back, something stuck out at me in an episode in which the crew had to get into their dress uniforms--they were borrowing the TNG cast's dress uniforms! Hence Sisko talking about his weight being different from when he's last worn his (he was probably wearing Frakes's) and Bashir having failed to bring his to the station (no male blueshirt in TNG's main cast).
That would have been S3 or 4 when Sisko got promoted, no? Or was it a different event?
 
Hence Sisko talking about his weight being different from when he's last worn his (he was probably wearing Frakes's) and Bashir having failed to bring his to the station (no male blueshirt in TNG's main cast).
Then where did Dax's dress uni come from? As far as I recall (I could be wrong, I often am), Crusher and Troi didn't get them until Liaisons in season 7, six months after Dax wore hers in Move Along Home. (Not to mention, pretty sure Frakes got a new dress uni for Liaisons too. I doubt he or Avery could fit into his old one.)
 
Did they wear dress uniforms on VGR? Who the hell in the Delta Quadrant would care how they dressed?
They did start wearing the dress uniforms a few times starting in season 5, which like I said was after Insurrection introduced a new dress uniform design which was used on DS9 as well, meaning the old TNG ones weren't needed there anymore.

Ironically, the first time we see dress uniforms was in the episode about the alternate "Silver Blood" Voyager crew, Course Oblivion. But they are seen worn by the actual Voyager crew a few times, such as Someone to Watch Over Me, One Small Step, and Ashes to Ashes.
That would have been S3 or 4 when Sisko got promoted, no? Or was it a different event?
Old Mixer is referring to the season 1 episode Move Along Home, where everyone is assembled in dress uniform to greet alien dignitaries arriving on the station from the Gamma Quadrant, aside from Bashir who is still wearing his regular uniform claiming to have lost his dress uniform.
 
Did they wear dress uniforms on VGR? Who the hell in the Delta Quadrant would care how they dressed?

For that matter, who (aside from other Voyager personnel) cares whether the ex-Maquis are wearing Starfleet uniforms? (It was done to fit in and erase differences)

Also, no matter how far they are from Earth, they're still representing their people.

Moreover, to stop wearing dress uniforms could be seen as the first step to resignation that you'll never come home and eventually still serve in Starfleet. Keeping up some of the old routines makes it feel like you're just on an extended mission, not lost and unable to get back for a loooong time. A little denial with your morning coffee. :vulcan:
 
For that matter, who (aside from other Voyager personnel) cares whether the ex-Maquis are wearing Starfleet uniforms? (It was done to fit in and erase differences)
And yet, the Maquis still had to wear different rank insignia.
Moreover, to stop wearing dress uniforms could be seen as the first step to resignation that you'll never come home and eventually still serve in Starfleet. Keeping up some of the old routines makes it feel like you're just on an extended mission, not lost and unable to get back for a loooong time. A little denial with your morning coffee.
On the flip side, they didn't start wearing the dress uniforms until it started looking like reaching home was a real possibility and not some far off pipe dream.
 
Watching the TNG episode, Ensign Ro, tonight, Riker makes Ro take off her Bajoran earring the moment she beams aboard, telling her she will follow Starfleet Uniform Code while aboard Enterprise.

I figure that Riker is just giving her a hard time because he doesn't like her. After all, Worf is allowed to wear his baldric, which certainly isn't standard Starfleet issue, because it's part of his culture. Certainly a Bajoran earring meets that cultural standard as well.

I always figured the rule is something like "permission must be obtained to wear religious or cultural items alongside the uniform" and that when requested the guideline is permission should always be forthcoming unless there is a good reason to say no (e.g. conference with potentially hostile aliens who are mortally offended by jewellery).

In Ro's case, and the little shit Bajoran on VGR - they didn't ask first, so they got told to take them of, at the end of Ensign Ro, Picard gives her permission to wear it (tacitly, but I suspect good enough when it's Picard).
 
It wasn't because Ro didn't ask permission to wear the earring. It was because she mouthed off to Riker's face and was an annoying jackass the whole time. It was her attitude that was the problem.

Well, that, and the fact that Ro once got 8 people killed. That probably didn't improve Riker's mood very much.
 
I recall that Pulaski's regular uniform was different, more like smock than those uncomfortable looking ones that the others wore.
 
Then where did Dax's dress uni come from? As far as I recall (I could be wrong, I often am), Crusher and Troi didn't get them until Liaisons in season 7, six months after Dax wore hers in Move Along Home. (Not to mention, pretty sure Frakes got a new dress uni for Liaisons too. I doubt he or Avery could fit into his old one.)

Got me, if those facts are true. Perhaps they invested in creating them for the DS9 episode with the intent of having them double as TNG dress uniforms.

Old Mixer is referring to the season 1 episode Move Along Home, where everyone is assembled in dress uniform to greet alien dignitaries arriving on the station from the Gamma Quadrant, aside from Bashir who is still wearing his regular uniform claiming to have lost his dress uniform.
That would be the one.
 
I recall that Pulaski's regular uniform was different, more like smock than those uncomfortable looking ones that the others wore.
I'm guessing it was a concession to her age and that she'd put a bit of weight on and the catsuit that most other woman on board wore wouldn't have been flattering on her.
 
It wasn't because Ro didn't ask permission to wear the earring. It was because she mouthed off to Riker's face and was an annoying jackass the whole time. It was her attitude that was the problem.
No, Riker got in her face the moment she beamed aboard about the earring being inappropriate and that she wouldn't be wearing it on his ship. How could she have given him attitude? She didn't have time. This is literally how things played out in the episode:
(a young woman in red uniform beams in, wearing a sullen expression and a fancy earring)
RO: Ensign Ro Laren reporting as ordered, Commander.
RIKER: You will follow Starfleet uniform code aboard this ship, Ensign.
(she removes the earring)
Please point out the part in this exchange where she is being a jackass, giving attitude, or deserving of being stripped of a cultural adornment that the Starfleet uniform code allows for other officers.
 
The other thing I don't understand about Ro Laren appearing on the Enterprise is why she's even in uniform at all? Same for Tom Paris in Caretaker for that matter. They've both effectively been asked to assist a mission while still in prison for a previous crime. Is it because they're still technically in Starfleet despite serving time?

Would a modern day military officer be required to wear uniform if they've been recalled from incarceration?
 
Sorry, it's been a while since I last watched Ensign Ro and misread the information on Memory Alpha. I thought she'd been imprisoned on Jaros II, then released by Admiral Kennelly to serve on the Enterprise while searching for a Bajoran terrorist. I'd forgotten she'd transferred from another ship. As I said, it's been a while since I've seen that episode.

However, the question still applies for Paris. Why is he back in uniform if he's just there as an observer assisting in trying to recapture Chakotay and the crew of the Val Jean? Especially as Janeway had told him he'd be cut loose after the end of the mission.
 
Didn't last long did it? Everyone on the ship knew before they'd even entered the Badlands. Just witness the scene in the mess hall with him and Harry.
 
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