Starfleet HQ/The Presidio
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Where does this information come from?
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I hike all over that area. I can tell you exactly where the camera was for the various matte shots. The bridge is also asymmetrical, so you can tell which end you are looking at fairly easily.
I'm pretty sure that a film crew wouldn't have been allowed on the Presidio when it was still in operation.
I could still swear that it was mentioned in an episode. Maybe it was one of the approximately 80 Trek books I've read though.....
Except since the assorted movies and shows like to mix and match their shots, it often seems the bridge (and even the terrain around it) has gotten a makeover and is now symmetrical. Or at least on occasion symmetrical.
Makeovers are only to be expected IMHO, what with the Breen considering the structure a strategic bombing target and all. Heck, it wouldn't surprise me if the whole place got bombed to the ground at least twice a century, so the requirement for skyline consistency can be dropped but re-erection of classic landmarks is assured.
Timo Saloniemi
The views aren't obscure and random. I'll take the word of those intimately familiar with the Bay Area for it. If they used a matte of DC with some or all of the following; Washington Monument, RFK Stadium, Capitol Building, Union Station and the National Cathedral visible, I'd be able to deduce where the "locale" is.
Are you kidding? They got permission to shoot at the San Diego Naval Base and on the USS Ranger for ST4. It's not like the Presidio was Area 51.
North Island Air Station, Coronado, San Diego to be precise. That's where the Ranger was moored. Aircraft carriers are typically ported here.
The main base and port—Naval Base San Diego— is across the bay in San Diego proper.
Well, I was stationed on the Presidio,albeit briefly.
Since we never got to see Wesley jumping to his death from the Golden Gate Bridge, because the writers wanted him to go on and become a snotty little brat later on, but I digress, I figured that the scenes with the bridge may actually just have been from post cards.
Antigrav fields stop jumping. It just ends up being like a trampoline.
As to postcards...I'm going to pretend you are kidding even if you're not.
I'm kidding.
But as far as the Next Gen episodes I don't recall a lot of Golden Gate Bridge pictures.
You're probably right, in the future people won't be able to do away with themselves simply by jumping from a bridge.
A million years ago I posted this about the ST:TMP DE, using grabs from it and then roughing out a map of where various facilities seen in the movies and shows would be.
The biggest issue is the way the air tram magically changes altitudes from shot to shot...and the way the bridge has two south towers (the one out in the channel) because they used angles from the north and pretended they were south.
I think I posted these before, but for them's who never saw 'em...
It's impossible for the bridge to be lit like this as seen from the south...another dead giveaway it's shot from the north. Also, the hills of the Marin headlands appear to have been flattened.
All the plates for these shots were done from the north side of the bridge, and one was flopped and altered to appear as if from the south side. But the dead giveaway is that the bridge is not symmetrical.
Specifically...
1. The north tower is right by the shoreline on the Marin side
2. The south tower stands out in the channel and has a caisson around its base
3. Between the south end of the bridge and the cable anchorage an arch was built over the old Civil War era fort there
Oh, and since I live in San Francisco and have a pretty good sense of geography, I created this map to show where a lot of the locations seen in the movies are shows would actually be located. [yellow being the Trek stuff, the other labels being actual locations]
As to how I know where Kirk's apartment is. The cyclorama seen outside his apartment window was from The Towering Inferno (you can tell because of the horizon line), which means Kirk's place is like 100 or more stories up. Based on "Inferno" this puts Kirk's pad roughly on the south side of Market Street at the start of Geary Blvd., between 2nd and 3rd Streets, more or less due south of the Transamerica Pyramid.
The SF Presidio not only has a fictional connection to Star Trek, but it also has a real world connection to ST as well.
Industrial Light and Magic's headquarters is actually located within the Presidio. I saw the ILM buildings when I visited the Presidio a couple of years ago. It has a scenic setting. Didn't get to go inside though.
ILM did work on a number of ST movies over the years including STID. I guess the visual effects of the scenes of San Francisco in STID movie might have been created right there in the actual Presidio itself, the future site of Starfleet HQs. Who knows, maybe in the future the ILM buildings become part of Starfleet HQs.
Industrial Light and Magic's headquarters is actually located within the Presidio. I saw the ILM buildings when I visited the Presidio a couple of years ago. It has a scenic setting. Didn't get to go inside though.
ILM did work on a number of ST movies over the years including STID. I guess the visual effects of the scenes of San Francisco in STID movie might have been created right there in the actual Presidio itself, the future site of Starfleet HQs. Who knows, maybe in the future the ILM buildings become part of Starfleet HQs.
