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News Starfleet Academy Coming to P+

Didn't they try that with Bryan Fuller?

The problem with Bryan Fuller:

https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/star-trek-discovery-5x10-life-itself.316862/page-34#post-14838530

It seems worth noting that Fuller's resume, even before the flame-out, wasn't stellar as a showrunner:
  • On the first show he was showrunner (Dead Like Me) he quit early in the first season due to some conflict with MGM (show only lasted two seasons).
  • Wonderfalls was canceled after one season (only four aired on live TV, with the rest DVD release only).
  • Pushing Daisies was canceled after two seasons.
  • Hannibal was canceled after three seasons.
It's true the latter three, in particular, were critically acclaimed, but they all struggled to find an audience. Fuller had never produced a hit show.

In contrast, RDM and Naran Shankar have both produced shows which were, while airing, Syfy's most popular shows. Both of them also ended on their own terms. Admittedly, The Expanse was poached by Amazon, but my understanding is that had more to do with the unusual method under which it was produced (with a third-party studio developing it, rather than an in-house Syfy production) than anything.

https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/star-trek-discovery-5x10-life-itself.316862/page-34#post-14838514
 
Yeah, we know.
Wake me up when we have actual news. Just for kicks, I looked at the anticipation threads for Discovery and people were mixed back then too.

We're not going to know anything until the show airs. It could be good, it could be bad. We don't know the directives handed down from Paramount, what they're working with, etc.

I'm not going looking for negative press here because a person did another show on the CW or whatever the fuck. It's asinine negative bias.
 
The primary evidence that Starfleet Academy will probably be good, IMHO, is the Kurtzman Trek shows have tended to get better over time.

The first seasons of Discovery and Picard were bumpy and flawed (though I thought Picard started a bit better). Lower Decks was well formed straight out the gate, if not quite as good as in later seasons. Prodigy and Strange New Worlds were great from the first episode.
 
Bryan Fuller would have made Discovery a great show IMO. They should have never fired him. I was also thinking more of the lines of what Tony Gilroy did for Andor and Jon Favreau did for the Mandalorian, Russell T Davies returning to Doctor Who and yes also Matalas for Picard.
 
He couldn't deliver a show on time and on budget!

How do you keep someone on who can't respect a limit like that? :wtf:
I'm forced to agree with this.

While I love Bryan Fuller as a creative writer, his track record as a showrunner is not good. (I think Jeri Taylor was the same... her individual episodes are usually very good, but as a showrunner, she was mediocre at best. The two seasons where she was fully in charge, TNG season 7 and VOY season 3, is proof of this... both are arguably the weakest seasons of those shows.) Fuller has an incredible imagination... almost a storybook quality to it. Particularly when you look at WONDERFALLS and PUSHING DAISIES. (I loved DEAD LIKE ME... have not seen HANNIBAL, so I can't comment on it.)

As an idea person and a creative mind, he's outstanding. But when it comes to the reality of getting it done, he is somewhat lacking.

He also reminds me of David Lynch somewhat... very creative, but needs a partner to rein in some of his excesses.


Others have said here that Ronald D. Moore would be an ideal person to take the reins of a STAR TREK series, and I am in 100 percent agreement on that. Not only does he have a superb track record of episodes he's written in the franchise and he knows the material and is a fan, but he also has a great track record as a showrunner for multiple shows.
 
The primary evidence that Starfleet Academy will probably be good, IMHO, is the Kurtzman Trek shows have tended to get better over time.

The first seasons of Discovery and Picard were bumpy and flawed (though I thought Picard started a bit better). Lower Decks was well formed straight out the gate, if not quite as good as in later seasons. Prodigy and Strange New Worlds were great from the first episode.
I liked the first Picard season better than the others.
Well, it just shows how different opinions can be...
 
Why not someone like Ron Moore,Damon Lindelof, Carlton Cuse, etc.
Ron Moore is on record as saying he will not return to Star Trek. As for Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse, well, given the stories that have since come to light about their behavior in the Lost writer's room...
 
How about Naren Shankar? Showrunner of the Expanse, executive producer on series like For All Mankind and Farscape, and he even wrote a few Star Trek episodes! Granted one of them was DS9's Babel, but that was actually a good episode and people are all very mean to it.
 
How about Naren Shankar? Showrunner of the Expanse, executive producer on series like For All Mankind and Farscape, and he even wrote a few Star Trek episodes! Granted one of them was DS9's Babel, but that was actually a good episode and people are all very mean to it.

I love this choice. He would be perfect to help lead a new Star Trek show.
 
Ron Moore is on record as saying he will not return to Star Trek. As for Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse, well, given the stories that have since come to light about their behavior in the Lost writer's room...

The last thing I saw from Ron Moore was he'd love to return to Trek, but he has an exclusive contract with Sony which precludes it for some time.
 
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