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News Starfleet Academy Coming to P+

Honestly, I think it's played out. This younger contingent of new fans Academy will supposedly appeal to is a pipe dream.
It's fair to say Prodigy was their first attempt to bring in new fans and sell toys to kids, and despite it being fantastic, it was a commercial failure. If it weren't for Nettlix, it'd be a buried tax write off.

Now they're aiming at teens. We'll see what happens. Even if it's a total failure, and utterly unwatchable... that doesn't mean I won't like it:lol:

They got it right in 2009 and made a huge splash, but it was a very different entertainment landscape then. And even then the toys didn't sell.
 
I just don't see the poor fit as you do.

That's fair. I'm just going by examples from the show of Kim's incredibly bad record of disobeying orders. I can't find the quote/episode on the fly, but there is an incident early on where Janeway pretty much flat out tells him it's going on his record, and it's going to have serious consequences for his career. And then... he continues to have behavioral issues throughout the entire trip.

As for Wesley's Academy test, it is odd that the Academy would have SUCH stringent rules. I think that just needs to be a "read between the lines" type thing. I don't think it's JUST that Wesley was taking a test to get into the Academy. He was taking a test to get into a specifical school within the Academy. He was going for a top-level command track program.

It would be similar to applying to go to a Community College or Harvard Law School. Just about anyone can get into Community College. Only some are going to get into Harvard Law.

I don't think "Starfleet Academy" is just one single, monolithic thing. "Starfleet Academy" makes more sense as more of an organization of schools with varying levels of prestige. A doctor going to Starfleet Academy isn't going to have the same program as a security officer.

We also know Starfleet tends to be officer heavy. It doesn't work quite like a real world military does. They have enlisted ranks, but there are also ALOT of officers... it can't be THAT hard to get into the Academy. Getting to a specific program within the Academy, that could be much more difficult.

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As an addendum to this, the idea of the different schools/tracks/levels of Starfleet Academy aren't treated like things might be treated today. Once you graduate, you just... graduated from Starfleet Academy and then move into the applicable role. Star Trek has built a culture where it would be uncouth at best to rub in how you were in x program at the Academy, like someone might stress how they went to Harvard today.

Yes, people know, and yes it will get you into better positions but... bragging about status and what not has become very not cool by that time. You don't need to specific what school or program you attended at the Academy. You went to Starfleet Academy. Your role will generally speak for itself.

Someone like Picard was likely in a similar program to what Wesley was trying to get into. He became a Captain pretty quickly. He graduated the Academy in 2327, was Captain by 2333. There some circumstances in there, but he still got it.
 
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It's fair to say Prodigy was their first attempt to bring in new fans and sell toys to kids, and despite it being fantastic, it was a commercial failure. If it weren't for Nettlix, it'd be a buried tax write off.

Now they're aiming at teens. We'll see what happens. Even if it's a total failure, and utterly unwatchable... that doesn't mean I won't like it:lol:

They got it right in 2009 and made a huge splash, but it was a very different entertainment landscape then. And even then the toys didn't sell.

The toys WON'T sell. Something they haven't figured out yet. It's a minor miracle we're getting the 1/6 scale figs from Exo6.
Prodigy's commercial success is very hard to pinpoint. If it tanked in the ratings, P+ would not have renewed it. The only reason they yanked it was because they were counting on supplementing it with great toy sales, and that did not happen. But it's also been highly successful on Netflix, enough so that rumors of a third season are being bandied about before the second even airs.
We don't know how many people were watching Prodigy, but we DO know that had little to nothing to do with why they were canceled by P+
 
I think trying to sell action figures to children in this day and age is a fools errand.

Kids don't play with action figures anymore. They go from Paw Patrol toys, straight to electronics, video games, Nerf guns, etc.

Action Figures are a collectors product now. Adults want high quality figurines and statues.

Market those.
 
I think trying to sell action figures to children in this day and age is a fools errand.

Kids don't play with action figures anymore. They go from Paw Patrol toys, straight to electronics, video games, Nerf guns, etc.

Action Figures are a collectors product now. Adults want high quality figurines and statues.

Market those.

100% true. If they were making 1/6 figures or even high-quality display boats or something of Prodigy characters, they'd sell.
Kids do not play with toys. I have a 15-year-old and a 10-year-old. Neither ever really played much with toys after age 5 or 6. And that's just how it goes these days.
 
100% true. If they were making 1/6 figures or even high-quality display boats or something of Prodigy characters, they'd sell.
Kids do not play with toys. I have a 15-year-old and a 10-year-old. Neither ever really played much with toys after age 5 or 6. And that's just how it goes these days.
My son turns 7 next month. I've tried so damn hard to get him into action figures. It just wasn't happening.

He loves Roblox, Nintendo Switch, his arsenal of Nerf Guns, board games, remote control cars, etc. Everything but action figures. And he's not alone. I've seen the same with his friends. With my nieces and nephews.

The only person interested in the action figure isle at Walmart is me.
 
I think trying to sell action figures to children in this day and age is a fools errand.

Kids don't play with action figures anymore. They go from Paw Patrol toys, straight to electronics, video games, Nerf guns, etc.

Action Figures are a collectors product now. Adults want high quality figurines and statues.

Market those.

As a 51-year-old who has spent far too much money on the Transformers Masterpiece line (and is now trying to sell them for vacation money), I can 100% attest to this.
 
Good luck! I hope you get a decent chunk of coin for those. They're beautiful figures.

I signed up for a toy fair in June. Hopefully that will be lucrative. I still have to list all my other TF stuff on eBay.

I had a bit of an addiction. Most of the stuff I bought I never even took out of the boxes. But I’m over it now.
 
I signed up for a toy fair in June. Hopefully that will be lucrative. I still have to list all my other TF stuff on eBay.

I had a bit of an addiction. Most of the stuff I bought I never even took out of the boxes. But I’m over it now.

I feel you. My wife is the one who pointed out my own obsessive need to "collect them all". And, tens of thousands of dollars on 1/6 scale figures later...
 
I'm going to wait until we have a trailer before deciding. For all we know it will be a mature series.

It could certainly be.

The stated intent is to draw in new, young adult fans. YA fiction has been fairly successful, and alot of it tends to be at least like, quasi-mature.

I'm going to acknowledge right now i'm probably being overly pessimistic. I'm trying to set an incredibly low expectation for myself so that almost anything they give me will be an improvement.
 
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