Spoilers Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - Grading & Discussion

[StCoop]

This is what I don't get...........that lemming attitude. Someone said this so I am not even going to make up my own mind.

I have neither an infinite amount of money or free time at my disposal, so how would you suggest I decide how to spend them?

Plus I have come to the conclusion long before today that my opinion on the new Star Wars films (Rogue One aside) is a big fat "Meh." I'll catch it on Netflix, sorry, Disney+

 

[Campe]

Unfortunately, I kind of think "modern" entertainment has always been this way. I volunteer at a local community theater here in ABQ and have acted in a few of the shows they've produced over the past couple of years. We, sadly, live and die by the reviews we get. There are four main arts review sources here and I can tell you that even if a show we do gets glowing reviews by a couple of them, if one of the others prints a bad review for the same show, our audience dwindles. That just happened this past spring. We were doing an adaptation of Moliere's Tartuffe. We had decent (if not glowing) reviews from two sources, but then one of the others lambasted the play and our audience numbers immediately went straight into the toilet. People seem to take more credence from bad reviews than they do from good reviews and it sucks!

I did community theater in Peoria, IL for many years. (Yes, it does play in Peoria. ) I can completely relate to that. The ultimate truth is: A review is one person's opinion.

 

[ITDUDE]

New Star Wars Reaping Worst Reviews Since ‘Phantom Menace’

Review: 'Rise of Skywalker' is a sour end to a grand saga

 

[KennyB]

I have neither an infinite amount of money or free time at my disposal, so how would you suggest I decide how to spend them?

Plus I have come to the conclusion long before today that my opinion on the new Star Wars films (Rogue One aside) is a big fat "Meh." I'll catch it on Netflix, sorry, Disney+

Fair enough

 

[BillJ]

I have neither an infinite amount of money or free time at my disposal, so how would you suggest I decide how to spend them?

If you like Star Wars, I can't imagine how a fan would chose to stay home for this movie. Regardless of what reviewers are saying.

 

[ITDUDE]

Well, at least Star Wars is keeping with the recent tradition where it will divide the fanbase, no matter the movie or director. But seriously, how hard is it to make a movie that is universally appreciated?

 

[Campe]

Why does the sharp divide between 1s and 5s not surprise me?

 

[fireproof78]

If you like Star Wars, I can't imagine how a fan would chose to stay home for this movie. Regardless of what reviewers are saying.

Yup. The days have long since passed for me where I take the reviewers seriously. I regretted not seeing Into Darkness sooner because I read negative reactions, and then I throughly enjoyed that film.

I've enjoyed the ST so far, as well as Abrams' work. There is no reason for me not to see it.

Why does the sharp divide between 1s and 5s not surprise me?

Because we live in a very tribalistic time, where it is either black or white.

 

[BillJ]

George Lucas has the solo 'Story By' credit?

 

[Campe]

George Lucas has the solo 'Story By' credit?

Per Wikipedia:

Screenplay by

• J. J. Abrams
• Chris Terrio

Story by

• Derek Connolly
• Colin Trevorrow
• J. J. Abrams
• Chris Terrio

Based on Characters
by George Lucas

 

[BillJ]

Per Wikipedia:

Screenplay by

• J. J. Abrams
• Chris Terrio

Story by

• Derek Connolly
• Colin Trevorrow
• J. J. Abrams
• Chris Terrio

Based on Characters
by George Lucas

The above screenshot had the story by George Lucas.

 

[Campe]

The above screenshot had the story by George Lucas.

I know. I believe that's inaccurate.

 

[ITDUDE]

I know. I believe that's inaccurate.

Fake news

 

[DigificWriter]

If any more proof was needed that 'professional Critic' isn't a real job, the disingenuousness of people coming out of this movie with positive first reactions only to turn around and trash it less than 48 hours serves as said proof.

 

[KennyB]

If any more proof was needed that 'professional Critic' isn't a real job, the disingenuousness of people coming out of this movie with positive first reactions only to turn around and trash it less than 48 hours serves as said proof.

See, it USED to be. They were journalists that happened to specialize in film and television. Now I don't know where all these goobers come from. Especially the Collider, Midnight's Edge, anyone with a webcam types. I miss Siskel & Ebert, but they even fucked up and panned Die Hard........lol.

 

[Campe]

See, it USED to be. They were journalists that happened to specialize in film and television. Now I don't know where all these goobers come from. Especially the Collider, Midnight's Edge, anyone with a webcam types. I miss Siskel & Ebert, but they even fucked up and panned Die Hard........lol.

“Star Wars” is like getting a box of Cracker Jack which is all prizes. This is the writer-director George Lucas’s own film, subject to no business interference, yet it’s a film that’s totally uninterested in anything that doesn’t connect with the mass audience. There’s no breather in the picture, no lyricism; the only attempt at beauty is in the double sunset. It’s enjoyable on its own terms, but it’s exhausting, too: like taking a pack of kids to the circus. An hour into it, children say that they’re ready to see it again; that’s because it’s an assemblage of spare parts—it has no emotional grip. “Star Wars” may be the only movie in which the first time around the surprises are reassuring…. It’s an epic without a dream. But it’s probably the absence of wonder that accounts for the film’s special, huge success. The excitement of those who call it the film of the year goes way past nostalgia to the feeling that now is the time to return to childhood.

Pauline Kael, man. She would absolutely hate the way modern cinema has gone. She may be rolling over in her grave, in fact.

 

[KennyB]

Well, at least Star Wars is keeping with the recent tradition where it will divide the fanbase, no matter the movie or director. But seriously, how hard is it to make a movie that is universally appreciated?

Here's one of those one star reviews...........I highlighted the important part.

 

[Nenya]

Now I know where people are coming from when they say that “Lucas took away my childhood.” Except that it wasn’t Lucas this time. It was Disney. I’m glad in a way; it’s made me not get so hyped up about movies like this. There’s a hole where the love of Star Wars was. I used to be a big fan and get excited when a new movie would come out. Now it’s over and thank god for that. Fuck Disney for taking a popular franchise and ruining it for many people and turning it into a soulless shit show. It’s time to move on.

This is just my opinion. I’m not trolling. I’m not saying my opinion is correct and others aren’t.

 

[Campe]

Now I know where people are coming from when they say that “Lucas raped my childhood.” Except that it wasn’t Lucas this time. It was Disney.

Do we honestly need to go down this road? Dislike the movie all you want. This is too far.

 

[CorporalClegg]

See, it USED to be. They were journalists that happened to specialize in film and television. Now I don't know where all these goobers come from. Especially the Collider, Midnight's Edge, anyone with a webcam types. I miss Siskel & Ebert, but they even fucked up and panned Die Hard........lol.

They both came down on the wrong side of history a lot. (There are several hundred old show clips to watch on YT.) But they actually knew film.

And there are still plenty of Youtube people who are actually students of film and present themselves in a way that makes it obvious they know what they're talking about. That doesn't mean they're wrong sometimes, but their opinions are based on educated or otherwise well-informed backgrounds and not just feelings. But for every one Linsay Ellis and Mikey Neuman, there is a dozen Doug Walkers who are just loud and obnoxious and celebrate the fact their opinions are based solely on emotional responses. (**But don't necessarily treat their employees like shit. That's a whole different thing.)

The problem is the second group has just so completely taken over to the point where we now have a growing trend of people who do nothing but record themselves watching series and films and people give them money for it.

***ETA: The "raped my childhood" thing as seriously got to stop.