Star Wars - the most overrated franchise ever??

Discussion in 'Star Wars' started by ArcherNX01, Dec 19, 2017.

  1. ElimParra

    ElimParra Fleet Admiral Premium Member

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    Star Wars to me isn't overrated. I find other science fiction more interesting, but to me it's part of my childhood. I generally see each movie once at the cinemas and then buy them on blu-ray later. If it gets young people interested in the genre that is awesome, as they might discover other science fiction later on, as they get older.
     
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  3. Ridcully

    Ridcully Commodore Commodore

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    And at the end who cares about such stuff??
    Made a fan out of a 10 year old boy in 77....(just turned 11 when it hit the the theatres here)...
    As for Rouge One...I liked that one a great deal as well... It is good fun and sometimes alittle bit serious...not much just enough to make it work...
    Here 40 years after I am still having fun...together with my kids....yeah sure is overrated and not working for them!!
    Troll!
     
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  4. JD

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    It's definitely not overrated, the first movie literally changed Hollywood forever, and that alone makes the franchise hugely important.
     
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  5. Smellmet

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    And it's difficult for any franchise to maintain that kind of momentum. It's done a better job than most though.
     
  6. JD

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    It's had it's ups and downs, but for me at least, even it's downs have been better than most other franchises'.
     
  7. Noname Given

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    Um, the old movies were callback to the old Saturday Morning movie serials of the late 1930ies early 1940ies (In fact, GL's original concept was to do an updated version of 'Flash Gordon' but he couldn't secure the rights - and this was the genesis for Star Wars that he started working on and shopping around in the early 1970ies.) The original Star Wars (1977) struck a chord with moviegoers (myself included); but it wasn't that the format was either new or fresh. Hell GL was in Hawaii and thought the film was going to bomb big. He was as surprised as everyone else as to it's success.
     
  8. Jax

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    I'm sure my ANH grade will annoy some people ;) I just feel you can tell GL directed it, he's a great idea guy and fantastic producer but he is mixed when it comes to executing it as a Director. (ROTS his is best work IMO).

    TPM - B
    ATOC - B-
    ROTS - B+
    ANH - B
    TESB - B+
    ROTJ - B+
    TFA - A-
    R1 - B+
    TLJ - B+

    Star Trek was my first Sci Fi growing up and my love for Star Wars came later so I've never had the whole Star Wars is my childhood theme that some others have. I was born in 87 so I am a kid of the 90's and I had so much Science Fiction to watch that the OT especially ANH seemed like just another movie with out of date effects. Episode 1 was the first time I saw a Star Wars movie at the cinema and until 2004 when I got the DVD set, I had vague memories of seeing the OT at various times in my childhood but never really having it ingrained into my soul. However from then Star Wars has always come close to rivalling my love of Trek (never surpassing it though).

    I understand exactly why Star Wars WAS the cultural phenomenon of the late 70's and early 80's but in this day and age it's part of a much more packed genre.

    My main reason for loving Star Wars is the ability for the franchise to stir my imagination and make you feel like a kid again.
     
  9. Campe98

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    Annoy? Eh. It’s all personal preference. My rankings are (in release order)

    ANH - A
    ESB - A-
    ROTJ - B-
    TPM - C
    AOTC - D-
    ROTS - C
    TFA - B+
    R1 - C+
    TLJ - A-
     
  10. fireproof78

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    Indeed. And to really appreciate the franchise there is a need to look at its roots and acknowledge were it came from. As I have aged, I have appreciated many different facets of the franchise, the ups and downs, and even the parts that I consider very "un-Star Wars" to me. "Empire Strikes Back" ranks up there very highly for me as being something that I didn't enjoy as "Star Wars" before "The Phantom Menace."
     
  11. Skipper

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    I'm sorry, who is saying this?!?
     
  12. Venardhi

    Venardhi Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Born in '85, I grew up in the Star Wars resurgence of the 90s. Nothing compared to Star Wars when I was 8 years old. I loved Star Trek, but it was stodgy in comparison, and all the aliens were just different kinds of human stereotypes with bits of rubber on their face. It told interesting stories, but it didn't make me wonder what Crewman #4 went to do after his shift at the teleporter. That was the real power of Star Wars, the seemingly infinite number of weird creatures, bounty hunters, etc. who each had their own name and story to be told, it was a universe full of potential and might just be full of kids from nowhere like Luke (like me) who might one day find themselves with a lightsaber in the middle of a battle between good and evil.

    So no, it isn't overrated. Star Wars is magic the likes of which hollywood has rarely produced. It's limitless space fantasy potential set loose in a child's imagination. I just wish the people making the movies these days could see it that way instead of feeling the need to add grit, deconstruct it, subvert it or make it "relevant." TPM(terrible as it may be in so many ways) and TFA(repetitive as it may be) are the only 2 movies of the 6 released in my lifetime that feel like they understand that core aspect of Star Wars. But ya know, they could make 10 more terrible movies and that original trilogy will still be pure magic.
     
  13. Skipper

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    By the way, fans usually don't label Star Wars as Sci-Fi. The preferred term is Science Fantasy. So for them it isn't the "Shakespeare of Sci-Fi".
     
  14. fireproof78

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    Shakespeare is a horrible comparison, since even the vaulted Shakespeare had fart jokes.
     
  15. flavaflav

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    TPM had fart AND shit jokes, both including everyones favorite character Jar Jar.
     
  16. Skipper

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    I believe the OP is the only one who is doing this comparison. Just for the sake of contradicting himself.
     
  17. ArcherNX01

    ArcherNX01 Commander Premium Member

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    Get real, it's widely accepted in academic circles as some of the most beautiful literature ever written.
     
  18. ArcherNX01

    ArcherNX01 Commander Premium Member

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    You missed out a crucial part - "act like".
     
  19. Skipper

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    So, you made up a simile just for the sake of saying that it's wrong..?
    No. Star Wars is studied because of its success and its use of literaly tropes. None is comparing it to Citizien Kane or Godfather from a writing point of view. It's like comparing Perrault's fables to Shakespeare's plays (this is a correct simile). They are both famous and important pieces of literature, but they aren't comparable from an artistic point of view.
     
  20. ArcherNX01

    ArcherNX01 Commander Premium Member

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    Star Wars is studied? That sounds like fun where do I sign up??

    I think you got my point (everyone else did) you're splitting hairs and being awkward simply because you disagree.