Star Wars: The Force Awakens Discussion (HERE THERE BE SPOILERS)
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Yeah, there's no way they're spending hundreds of millions on movies just to solidify some particular aspect of continuity.
What they do and don't show in the Han Solo movie depends entirely on what story they want to tell. If they depict that sabbacc game then it needs to have a larger significance than just an exercise in connecting dots. Another concern is that they almost certainly want to do more than one Han Solo movie and as such they might want to save that little chapter for later.
What they do and don't show in the Han Solo movie depends entirely on what story they want to tell. If they depict that sabbacc game then it needs to have a larger significance than just an exercise in connecting dots. Another concern is that they almost certainly want to do more than one Han Solo movie and as such they might want to save that little chapter for later.
Howcome in the Star Wars universe they use earth based hours and minutes and stuff? Earth doesn't exist in their universe so why use our measurements? Even old BSG tried to make language a little alien.
You realize they're not actually speaking English, right? Their language and measurements are being translated for us.
OK............ OK where's the "like" button for this?
I think the EU tried to come up with alternate terms ("standard time parts" IIRC) but nothing ever really stuck. I think TCW & Rebels has mentioned "rotations" as being an equivalent to a day, even in deep space, but no indication of whether that equals 24hrs.
Really though, Star Wars has always been so loose when it comes to marking time that there's never really been much of a need to get specific. There's no calender that the whole galaxy uses so all of the time spans are fairly vague. i.e. how long was it between the blockade of Naboo and the Clone Wars? About ten years. That could be ten years to the day (bit of a coincidence) or to within three to nine months of the tenth anniversary. Same with everything else. How long between Episode VI & VII? About 30 years. When were the Sith thought wiped out? About a thousand years ago. You get the idea.
I think the only time they've ever referenced a specific point in time is on Rebels with "Empire Day" as it dates it as an anniversary of a known event. Everything else is by design pretty fuzzy.
From an in-universe perspective, I suppose one could say that while most worlds use Coruscant's time and dating systems for business and diplomatic purposes, they're likely to each have their own independent systems, of which there would be literally thousands, if not millions. Way too much to keep track of.
Really though, Star Wars has always been so loose when it comes to marking time that there's never really been much of a need to get specific. There's no calender that the whole galaxy uses so all of the time spans are fairly vague. i.e. how long was it between the blockade of Naboo and the Clone Wars? About ten years. That could be ten years to the day (bit of a coincidence) or to within three to nine months of the tenth anniversary. Same with everything else. How long between Episode VI & VII? About 30 years. When were the Sith thought wiped out? About a thousand years ago. You get the idea.
I think the only time they've ever referenced a specific point in time is on Rebels with "Empire Day" as it dates it as an anniversary of a known event. Everything else is by design pretty fuzzy.
From an in-universe perspective, I suppose one could say that while most worlds use Coruscant's time and dating systems for business and diplomatic purposes, they're likely to each have their own independent systems, of which there would be literally thousands, if not millions. Way too much to keep track of.
One of the Rebels recon episodes on the Star Wars website had a producer say that the working assumption is that there's a universal time and calendar system based off of Coruscant's system that's what all the characters use, unless otherwise noted.
Do we know for a fact Earth doesn't exist? The story takes place in another galaxy, and as far as I know the only time they've dealt with stuff outside their galaxy was the Yuuzhan-Vong and I don't think anything about them means that Earth doesn't exist.
At one point there was an idea that the humans in Star Wars were descendants from Earth's future (THX-1138 timeline) that managed to escape and travel not only back in time, but also to another galaxy to colonize in the Corellian system only to become slaves of some other race for a few thousands of years before discovery of the Force helps liberate the humans and I suppose other races from the slavers. These races would eventually unit as a Republic in the Core Worlds and expand outwards from their once they perfected hyperspace travel some 25,000 - 35,000 years before Yavin.
That idea was dropped to leave the galaxy and the humans more of a mystery.
That idea was dropped to leave the galaxy and the humans more of a mystery.
You realize they're not actually speaking English, right? Their language and measurements are being translated for us.
Yeah, practically every written language we see in the Star Wars universe is an alien alphabet that would be indecipherable were it not for the creators and fans. Except for the Death Star tractor beam control readout seen in the original version of ANH all signs and all descriptions posted on control panels and other equipment are in Aurebesh or other languages.
Eventually in Episode XVI, humans create a new race of sentient droids which they call Cylons, and over the course of the next two movies the Cylons overrun the galaxy. Only a few humans survive, and at the end of Episode XVIII they escape to a new galaxy where they find a new world, which they name Kobol.
I am so glad they didn't do this.
Part of what make Star Wars work for me is that it has no connection with Earth- it has it's own rich history and future.
It's probably best that they never address it. Down that way lies madness and BSG:1980 style shenanigans.
The opening text is really just meant to underline that this is all basically a fairy tale ("once upon a time, in a far away land..."), that is entirely divorced from any real world context.
I know that they've mentioned that, what I was getting at was that they've never gotten into the specifics of what that calender actually *is*. And probably a wise thing too since it'll only create something that's bound to unnecessarily restrict the writers.
In one of the books (don't remember which) there was a sideways reference to an extra-galactic expedition by the Asogain races. One of their ships potentally visited some primitive planet and accidentally left one of their younger members on the planet. That member would later used primitive technology to "phone home" and was later picked up.
The lost younger member did recognized Yoda, or Yoda's species.
The lost younger member did recognized Yoda, or Yoda's species.
OK but how would people on Earth have know to make those Yoda masks?
Was it a subconscious race memory?
Well, this is a Star Trek BBS. Temporal Wormholes to get to the past, Hyperdrives going outside the Galaxy experience turbulence (perhaps it is temporal in nature), and the Star Wars trilogy was an intercepted transmission from the New Republic propaganda department picked up by George Lucas in 1973 having the broadcast a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away.
I'll buy that..
And spielberg ripped off his designs for ET..
BTW who named the ET race? Did Spielberg have a name for them when the movie was made?
Yeah I think it's safe to say that all of the E.T. stuff is just meant to be tongue-in-cheek references because of the Yoda cameo, which was also very much tongue-in-cheek.
Not the kind of thing you want to base a theory on.
Though if you must rationalize it, then probably the most sensible option is that in the E.T. universe, there's a species that they're familiar with that looks just like Yoda's species. While in the definitely separate Star Wars universe, there just so happens to be a species that looks like E.T.'s people, with the same name and homeworld that Spielberg came up with.
Which makes about as much sense as there being a species that just so happens to look just like humans.
Not the kind of thing you want to base a theory on.
Though if you must rationalize it, then probably the most sensible option is that in the E.T. universe, there's a species that they're familiar with that looks just like Yoda's species. While in the definitely separate Star Wars universe, there just so happens to be a species that looks like E.T.'s people, with the same name and homeworld that Spielberg came up with.
Which makes about as much sense as there being a species that just so happens to look just like humans.
LOL
Also that same species refers to itself as humans in the SW universe. Anakin even used the term in TPM when explaining pod racing.
But, wouldn't that fall under the translation argument? That this is being translated for us in to English? So, the term "human" is just the English word that makes sense in that.
Or something.
Or something.
