Star Wars References in Star Trek...

[F. King Daniel]

Han Solo has a tiny cameo (among about a dozen other characters from a dozen other shows) in the novel Ishmael, and the Millennium Falcon is apparently vaguely described in one of the Vanguard novels.

And nobody has yet mentioned that the Xindi built a gigantic clockwork Death Star!

 

[CorporalCaptain]

It's not a bona fide reference, but the Dyson sphere in TNG's "Relics" has obvious Death Star influences, too.

In TNG's "The Survivors" I felt there were various shout outs to Star Wars, such as all the references to "the system" and Wesley's line "Look at the size of that!"

 

[Khan 2.0]

there’s abit of a Lucas feel to Star Trek III - the cantina scene, alien microbes, opening up the ST universe with ships/spacestations, the malfunctioning Excelsior/Falcons light speed, crew becoming rebels, the end fight on Genesis feels like something out of Temple of Doom with all the lava etc...i know it was more of a homage to Kirks TOS fistfights but it had that Indy feel to it too

plus the story itself mirrored Empire Strikes Back a little

 

[Sean_McCormick]

It's been many years that i played it, so my memory of it is very fuzzy. In Elite Force II in an bar on some planet you could hear if you were in the right place a group of patrons haggle about passage on a ship. It played out very much the initial dialoge between Obi Wan and Han Solo in the Mos Eisley Cantina...

[Edit:] Found it on Youtube: http://youtu.be/ySRfoBKfjgo?t=4h43m22s

 

[Vandervecken]

This scene from "Gambit":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWyJ1bY66jE



and a scene I can't find from "Unification" (where Riker is flirting with the 4-armed singer/keyboardist) both have a strong Mos Eisley/cantina feel to them, especially the second.

and...this may be a bit mean, but that keyboardist always reminded me of the elephant-like keyboardist in Jabba's lair.

 

[CorporalClegg]

This scene from "Gambit":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWyJ1bY66jE



and a scene I can't find from "Unification" (where Riker is flirting with the 4-armed singer/keyboardist) both have a strong Mos Eisley/cantina feel to them, especially the second.

and...this may be a bit mean, but that keyboardist always reminded me of the elephant-like keyboardist in Jabba's lair.

Neither of those is really a Star Wars nod.

The first one is strait out of any film noir ever made.

The second one can be filed under the "coincidence" of two series about aliens having an alien playing the piano.

 

[Joel_Kirk]

It's been many years that i played it, so my memory of it is very fuzzy. In Elite Force II in an bar on some planet you could hear if you were in the right place a group of patrons haggle about passage on a ship. It played out very much the initial dialoge between Obi Wan and Han Solo in the Mos Eisley Cantina...

[Edit:] Found it on Youtube: http://youtu.be/ySRfoBKfjgo?t=4h43m22s

Definitely a SW nod there.

 

[Orac]

I thought Wesley said Alderaan at the start of Ménage à Troi but upon rewinding to be certain he actually says Aldebraan.

 

[Christopher]

there’s abit of a Lucas feel to Star Trek III - the cantina scene, alien microbes, opening up the ST universe with ships/spacestations, the malfunctioning Excelsior/Falcons light speed, crew becoming rebels, the end fight on Genesis feels like something out of Temple of Doom with all the lava etc...i know it was more of a homage to Kirks TOS fistfights but it had that Indy feel to it too

Normally I'm skeptical of "This resembles that so it must be based on it" arguments (see below), but in this case I'll concede it -- it always has seemed to me that the reason Trek movies shifted away from the cerebral, '70s-SF-movie flavor of TMP to the more action-oriented, broad space-opera approach of the subsequent movies was out of a desire to emulate Star Wars, since just about every sci-fi moviemaker was trying to emulate SW around then.

Neither of those is really a Star Wars nod.

The first one is strait out of any film noir ever made.

The second one can be filed under the "coincidence" of two series about aliens having an alien playing the piano.

Right. The problem with asserting anything as a Star Wars reference is that absolutely everything in Star Wars is itself referencing or pastiching something from earlier cinema or pop culture. George Lucas's entire career has been built on pastiche, nostalgia, and outright imitation.

I thought Wesley said Alderaan at the start of Ménage à Troi but upon rewinding to be certain he actually says Aldebraan.

Actually the script and subtitles say "the Aldabren exchange," which may or may not be a misspelling/mispronunciation of Aldebaran (Alpha Tauri), a real star.

I've always assumed that "Alderaan" was coined as a variation on Aldebaran, but Wikipedia claims it's one spelling of a disused name for two different stellar pairs, Procyon/Gomeisa and Castor/Pollux.

 

[Drone]

All of this is interesting ephemera, no doubt. But what piques my curiosity are the occurrences of winks, nods, slaps, or homages to Trek in Star Wars. While ignoring the actual substance of the characters and simultanously insulting the creative cred of George Lucas, I'll bend to throwing out that hoary chestnut favored over the years by legions of naif "critics"; Jar Jar = Neelix.


Any legitimate examples though?

 

[The Wormhole]

Computer terminals on the lava planet Obi-Wan and Anakin have their epic duel in ROTS display text which bears more than a passing similarity to the Klingon language.

 

[Christopher]

But what piques my curiosity are the occurrences of winks, nods, slaps, or homages to Trek in Star Wars. ...Any legitimate examples though?

The title itself is an homage. Lucas called it Star Wars because he wanted to attract the attention of Star Trek fans with a similar-sounding name. (Or so I've heard. I can't cite a source.)

There's also the use of "tractor beam" and "deflector shield." Those terms predate ST, and it drew them in turn from earlier SF literature, but ST certainly popularized them. And I think the actual phrase "deflector shield," as opposed to simply "deflector" or "deflector field," may have originated with, or at least been standardized by, ST.

And the "proton torpedoes" Luke used to blow up the Death Star were obviously inspired by photon torpedoes.

 

[The Wormhole]

And I often wonder if the reason the other movies didn't continue ANH's habit of using the term "Starfleet" was because it was a bit too Trek sounding...

 

[CorporalCaptain]

All of this is interesting ephemera, no doubt. But what piques my curiosity are the occurrences of winks, nods, slaps, or homages to Trek in Star Wars. While ignoring the actual substance of the characters and simultanously insulting the creative cred of George Lucas, I'll bend to throwing out that hoary chestnut favored over the years by legions of naif "critics"; Jar Jar = Neelix.


Any legitimate examples though?

Christopher and The Wormhole cited some in the original film.

In the PT, I think "the Federation" in reference to the Trade Federation is a nod in SW to ST also. Actually, I think it's more than just a nod, because in the way it references bad guys in SW with a nod to the good guys in ST, it foreshadows the whole role-reversal of good guys and bad guys that's about to be undergone as the Republic gets transformed into the Empire.

 

[The Wormhole]

I'll admit, it is amusing hearing "take down those Federation ships" in a Star Wars movie.

 

[T'Girl]

Computer terminals on the lava planet Obi-Wan and Anakin have their epic duel in ROTS display text which bears more than a passing similarity to the Klingon language.

Weren't those the same style of characters seen in TESB with the clearance code used to get the shuttle passed the fleet around the second death star?

 

[Sean_McCormick]

[...]

The title itself is an homage. Lucas called it Star Wars because he wanted to attract the attention of Star Trek fans with a similar-sounding name. (Or so I've heard. I can't cite a source.)
[...]

Here in Germany the reverse thing happened. TOS was not called Star Trek, but when TMP came out, they kept it to attract Star Wars fans.

 

[Christopher]

^Wasn't it Raumschiff Enterprise?

In Japan, TOS was called Uchuu Daisakusen -- "Large Operation in Space," as close to a literal translation of "Star Trek" as they could get -- but the movies just rendered the title phonetically as "Sutaa Torekku." I wonder if there was a similar reason for that.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

So I guess its only a matter of time before we get the hollywood reboot/crossover that reveals the Galactic Republic is really just the far future descendant of the Federation

 

[Joel_Kirk]

Okay, so I played a bit more of Star Trek Online with my Romulan toon - I like calling our character's toons - and for one mission, I am part of a squad that is fighting alien 'walkers.' The Romulan commander gave me the rundown of the situation as we 'started our attack run.'

Obviously, the developers are Star Wars fans as well.

(I wonder if I should play John Williams' 'Battle of Yavin' or 'Battle of Hoth' during that mission?)