Star Wars Rebels Season Three (spoilers)

[Ithekro]

Well the holocrons seem to have been blown up, so that's a path to knowledge that is closed to Luke going forward. Meaning he likely won't be getting at least that set of saber deflection instructions from his father (Luke would have loved to get pointers from his father before Hoth).

 

[Christopher]

So somewhere during that 10 hour span, with the Tantive IV in increasing danger of being overtaken. Leia reached out to her father for ideas and he said "You're not too far from Tattoine... There's someone there who can help..."

That makes sense....

No -- in Bail's conversation with Mon Mothma in Rogue One, he said that he was going to return to Alderaan, yet send a messenger to make contact with his exiled Jedi friend. Mothma said he should send someone he trusted, and he said "I'd trust her with my life." As the door closed, we heard him calling out to Captain Antilles to get his ship ready. So Leia was assigned to contact Kenobi before the Battle of Scarif happened. Then she got sidetracked along with the rest of the fleet when they went to Scarif to help Rogue One. Once she fled Scarif with the plans, she proceeded with her original mission to contact Kenobi, now with even greater urgency.

However by Endor, or even Hoth, it seems likely Kanan and Ezra are gone (dead or otherwise removed from the Light) due to Yoda's claim that Luke will be the last of the Jedi. And certainly by the time of TFA, if Luke is the only Jedi Master around.

Well, technically, Kanan isn't an official Jedi, only a lapsed Padawan. Although I guess he's closer to being an official Jedi than Luke ever was, since as Caleb Dume he trained for considerably longer than Luke did.

Also, Master is a higher rank of Jedi, isn't it? In ROTS, Anakin was upset about being allowed on the Council without being promoted to the rank of Master. I think I read once that the original intent was that there were at least two ranks of Jedi, Knight and Master. And the Masters were supposed to be more teachers than fighters, a distinction that got blurred in the prequels.

I'd been assuming that Kanan's blindness was going to be the excuse for why he was no longer active by the time of the movies, but Chirrut Imwe pretty much puts paid to that, doesn't he? As, of course, does Kanan himself in the current season.

 

[marillion]

No -- in Bail's conversation with Mon Mothma in Rogue One, he said that he was going to return to Alderaan, yet send a messenger to make contact with his exiled Jedi friend. Mothma said he should send someone he trusted, and he said "I'd trust her with my life." As the door closed, we heard him calling out to Captain Antilles to get his ship ready. So Leia was assigned to contact Kenobi before the Battle of Scarif happened. Then she got sidetracked along with the rest of the fleet when they went to Scarif to help Rogue One. Once she fled Scarif with the plans, she proceeded with her original mission to contact Kenobi, now with even greater urgency.

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Arrgh! right.. I've only seen it once and forgot about that part of the exchange...

 

[LJones41]

While it is clear that Luke didn't really get much, if any training between the death of Kenobi and finding Yoda, it is not impossible that he could have gotten a pointer or two from Ezra or Kanan in those three years, assuming they crossed paths at some point, which given the prominence of the Ghost in this early Rebellion, would make sense. If they still live.

Has this been verified by the new Lucasfilm? And why not simply return to Dagobah to finish his training with Yoda?

 

[The Wormhole]

NOW, the only thing that doesn't make sense to me is the age difference between Bail Organa and Obi Wan.. I always thought that Bail would be older than Obi Wan.. But clearly, Bail still looks relatively vigorous/youn in Rogue One, whereas Obi Wan looks to be much older (in ANH). I guess living in the desert all those years takes a toll on the skin and bones. It's just a movie.. it's just a movie...

Makes perfect sense. As a member of Alderaan's royal family anti-aging skin cream is probably readily available to help preserve his looks, while Obi-Wan is living a harsh desert lifestyle which is accelerating his aging.

 

[Christopher]

Are all humans in Star Wars the same species? They've lived on different planets for tens of millennia at least, as I understand it. That's enough time for some evolutionary differences to have set in, or for genetic engineering to be employed. Maybe Alderaanians are naturally slower-aging than whatever branch of humanity Obi-Wan comes from.

 

[Ithekro]

Twin suns are harsh on the skin.

Has this been verified by the new Lucasfilm? And why not simply return to Dagobah to finish his training with Yoda?

Yoda didn't tell Kanan or Ezra were he was. Yoda gave Kanan his final trails, I think, so he knighted Kanan via Force Proxy and give Ezra the clue they needed to fight the Sith (sending them to Malachor)...though spelled out for him that the Jedi should not be fighting and that was part of the reason they lost to the Sith at the end of the Clone Wars.

That was the key, so of, not fighting the Sith. Luke won when he stopped fighting (after a fashion).

 

[Tosk]

Twin suns are harsh on the skin.

That's for sure. Obi-Wan ages from Ewan to Alec, and 19 year-old Luke looks like he's actually 26.

Owen and Beru come off worst though...that's some rapid oldenation right there.

 

[Reverend]

Well, technically, Kanan isn't an official Jedi, only a lapsed Padawan. Although I guess he's closer to being an official Jedi than Luke ever was, since as Caleb Dume he trained for considerably longer than Luke did.

Actually Kanan was knighted, in a temple and by the grand master of the Jedi Order no less (yes, of course that's really Yoda driving the vision.) I think that's about as official as it gets under the circumstances.
He even introduces himself to Bendu as "Kanan Jarrus, Jedi Knight".

 

[Christopher]

Oh yeah, I forgot about Kanan being knighted.

 

[Samurai8472]

Twin suns are harsh on the skin.

Sabine- Stupid sand. Get's everywhere

At least they can poke fun at the big boss's clunky dialogue.

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

Sabine- Stupid sand. Get's everywhere

At least they can poke fun at the big boss's clunky dialogue.

Maybe because he's ex big boss!

 

[Tuskin38]

They're still using his notes for some decisions though. George Lucas was basically Dave Filoni's mentor.

 

[Ithekro]

Well that was interesting. Though I think the point of the episode was simply to get Thrawn closer to finding their base.

But next week we are getting some lore. Mandalorian lore.

Spoiler

So...according to legends, the Darksaber was created by the first Mandalorian Jedi over a thousand years ago, and kept by the Jedi in the Temple after that Jedi (a Tar Vizsla I think) passed. House Vizsla later liberated it from the Temple and used it to unify their people for a time. Now it is in the hands of Sabine Wren of House Vizsla. So there was force potential in that bloodline someplace. And the Darksaber is unique.

(These are from the preview for the episode for next week shown at the end of the Rebels Recon for this week's episode.)

 

[tharpdevenport]

That trailer for the second half of this season, that came out about a week ago, shows Kanan apparently training Sabine and I recall one breifly shot of her holding a lightsaber.

I wonder, speculation really, if the time Kanan starts spending with Sabine as opposed to Ezra, makes Ezra jealous and more prone to suggestions from Maul. If this results in some stupid Sabine and Ezra lightsaber fight, I'll be pissed.

 

[Reverend]

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So...according to legends, the Darksaber was created by the first Mandalorian Jedi over a thousand years ago, and kept by the Jedi in the Temple after that Jedi (a Tar Vizsla I think) passed. House Vizsla later liberated it from the Temple and used it to unify their people for a time. Now it is in the hands of Sabine Wren of House Vizsla. So there was force potential in that bloodline someplace. And the Darksaber is unique.

(These are from the preview for the episode for next week shown at the end of the Rebels Recon for this week's episode.)

^It should be noted that Sabine is of clan Wren, which seems to be a vassal of House Vizsla. So she may not necessarily be of the Vizsla line herself. And even if she was, that's someone that lived over a thousand years ago, before the fall of the old Old Republic. Unless she's a direct decedent (highly doubtful), there's not going to be much of a genetic trace after all those generations.

It's moot anyway since we've seen that while you can get families that are strong with the force, the talent can pretty much crop up just about anywhere, regardless of heredity.
Remember that the Jedi forbade attachment, so for at least the last millennia, they didn't have children of their own as a rule and yet they kept finding enough force sensitive children born to non-sensitive parent to fill out an order 10,000 strong.

I wonder, speculation really, if the time Kanan starts spending with Sabine as opposed to Ezra, makes Ezra jealous and more prone to suggestions from Maul. If this results in some stupid Sabine and Ezra lightsaber fight, I'll be pissed.

Those shots also have Ezra sitting around in the background, so presumably he's helping Kanan to instruct her. Also, he's not an attention seeking five year old.

 

[Shawnster]

One wonders if the prominence of the Millennium Falcon took over some of the Ghost's jobs, or if they still went around doing stuff in the following years. The Falcon has slightly less firepower and doesn't have the added shuttle/fighter slot, but the Falcon is the fastest hunk of junk in the Galaxy, and from observation, while Hera is a really good pilot, she's not nearly as crazy as Han Solo.

Up until the attack on Hoth Base and the events that followed, Solo and the Falcon were still only "day-to-day" in their support of the Rebellion. Sure, he had a rank but he had no problem cutting bait and running after that bounty hunter ran into him at Ord Mantell. Solo's goal was to repair the Falcon and leave Hoth. That was why he was mad that Chewie had taken systems apart.

It would make strategic sense to keep the Ghost active in addition to the Falcon. Probably not everyone trusted Solo to stay.

Plus, we're still talking rebel cells. It's clear Yavin IV wasn't the entire Rebel Alliance. Hoth probably wasn't the entire Rebellion, either. We probably only saw the entire Rebel Fleet at the Battle of Endor. Ghost wasnt part of Dodonna's rebel cell. That was made clear several times, especially in the episode where they stole the Y-Wings for Dodonna's group. So, Dodonna gets the Falcon and Ghost works for another rebel cell.

 

[Christopher]

Plus, we're still talking rebel cells. It's clear Yavin IV wasn't the entire Rebel Alliance. Hoth probably wasn't the entire Rebellion, either. We probably only saw the entire Rebel Fleet at the Battle of Endor. Ghost wasnt part of Dodonna's rebel cell. That was made clear several times, especially in the episode where they stole the Y-Wings for Dodonna's group. So, Dodonna gets the Falcon and Ghost works for another rebel cell.

So I wonder what the Ghost was doing at Yavin during the events of Rogue One. It did seem there was some kind of conclave of Rebellion leadership going on, since at least three Rebel senators (Mothma and the Organas) were present. Maybe Hera was there representing Phoenix Squadron. So does that mean Sato couldn't make it, or maybe that he doesn't make it? That is, maybe Sato dies and Hera is promoted to become his replacement sometime between "now" (in show time) and Rogue One.

 

[Ithekro]

Well the do page for General Syndulla. Though the Alliance has a lot of generals. Either's she's taken over Phoenix cell, or she's became the ranking officer in charge of the Starflighters for her cell/Sector Command. Sort of the position General Calrissian would have at Endor.

 

[Reverend]

So I wonder what the Ghost was doing at Yavin during the events of Rogue One. It did seem there was some kind of conclave of Rebellion leadership going on, since at least three Rebel senators (Mothma and the Organas) were present. Maybe Hera was there representing Phoenix Squadron. So does that mean Sato couldn't make it, or maybe that he doesn't make it? That is, maybe Sato dies and Hera is promoted to become his replacement sometime between "now" (in show time) and Rogue One.

Given the buildup in season 3 so far, I'd be willing to guess that Sato is killed in Thrawn's attack and that most of that cell is devastated (hence no A-Wings at Yavin 4 perhaps?) leaving Hera in charge of the survivors, probably to link back up and be absorbed into Dodonna's group at Dantooine.

Spoiler: Rogue One

And yes, according to the novelization, that meeting was the entire Alliance High Council. As a General Hera would be a military leader and thus not necessarily in on that meeting. Her being paged right after the meeting suggests she gets briefed--probably by Merrick and/or Raddus--right afterwards. Which is probably why she was there in the first place.