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Star Wars Rebels Season One (spoilers)

I thought the episode was ookay. It was a little more character development for Ezra; as someone pointed out earlier he seems to be changing from the know-it-all brat that he was.
 
While the episode was pretty obvious and recycled, it was pretty cool having Frank Oz Yoda in there. Actually the biggest thing for me was those little fireflies, which I assume are the Force Priests from Clone Wars Season Six. In fact, I would argue that we didn't hear Yoda, but the Priests using his voice.

And since the new movie is called "The Force Awakens", I'm suddenly wondering if we're going to be seeing these Force Priests again in 11 months...
 
Pretty sure the fireflies were Yoda's doing. The priestesses (which is apparently one entity, split into four primary facets) did teach him how to preserve his consciousness past death and project an image into the physical world, or at least far enough for a force user to see.

That he could so clearly sense and communicate with other Jedi across show's he's already had a significant jump in his abilities as we saw them in TCW. Back then, even as the most powerful Jedi alive, the best he could do was get a general sense of things. Now, that may have had more to do with the "shroud of the dark side" than anything, but it's fair to assume that hasn't gone anywhere since.

I suppose part of it could also have something to do with where he is. Dagobah is something of a nexus and a "pure" place of force energies, so it could be giving him a perceptual boost.

As for the coincidence of a Jedi temple being on Lothal, according to Filoni there's a bigger picture at play. Even without that, the Jedi have been around for thousands of years, that's plenty of time to have abandoned outposts on just about every inhabited planet in the Republic, even if most have been abandoned for centuries.
 
Maybe Yoda likes to remotely taunt Vader and Palpatine, since they were never able to find him.
 
I watched this episode last night and I thought it was great. Yes it was basically a redo of Empire, but I feel like every padiwan should go through that. This episode brought Yoda back in a way that made sense to me. Obviously he can't be a force ghost yet, but he was able to manipulate the living force from the Clone Wars. It was great hearing Frank Oz, it makes me wonder if we may hear Yoda in episode 7? Also, is this how Yoda communicates with Obiwan? I wonder if they will revisit this and I also wonder if the crew of the Ghost will encounter any other Jedi. Also, if Luke is the only Jedi by the time of AKH, does that mean Kanan and Ezra will be killed by the end of the series? A lot of questions to be answered.
 
I've been trying to give this show a chance but it's not growing on me. Initially I was let down that the animation and acting seemed less ambitious but it seems really lacking in scope as well. Star Wars tends to be big and this just feels really small to me.
 
I've been trying to give this show a chance but it's not growing on me. Initially I was let down that the animation and acting seemed less ambitious but it seems really lacking in scope as well. Star Wars tends to be big and this just feels really small to me.
I think that's the idea. The Rebel Alliance may have started off very small with just the crew of the Ghost and a few others, but grew larger over time to the point where we saw it in Episode IV.
 
So are Kanan and Hera supposed to be romantically involved, or just very close friends?

Also hope we get a flashback on the cast members origins at some point.


I think that's the idea. The Rebel Alliance may have started off very small with just the crew of the Ghost and a few others, but grew larger over time to the point where we saw it in Episode IV.


I was just coming in to say this. It's obvious that things are going to grow over time. The symbol painted on Kanan's shoulder armor is a dead giveaway.
 
I've been trying to give this show a chance but it's not growing on me. Initially I was let down that the animation and acting seemed less ambitious but it seems really lacking in scope as well. Star Wars tends to be big and this just feels really small to me.
I think that's the idea. The Rebel Alliance may have started off very small with just the crew of the Ghost and a few others, but grew larger over time to the point where we saw it in Episode IV.

I can see that but I guess I haven't found this gestational state very compelling so far.
 
Well it is about four or five years until Luke joins up and takes on the Death Star over Yavin. They got time.
 
So are Kanan and Hera supposed to be romantically involved, or just very close friends?

Vanessa Marshall addresses that in an interview:

http://community.ew.com/2015/01/07/vanessa-marshall-interview/

When asked if Hera and Kana are "space married" or not, she says their work keeps them too busy to even consider the luxury of romance, and that if the show does go there, she'll discover that along with the rest of us.

Frankly the part I find more interesting is this:
Of course, Kanan is a Jedi. I think most of us defer to his Force sensibilities. It helps her to have people think he is running the show, because if the Empire catches them he can’t ruin the mission, because he doesn’t know anything. But if they know I’m in charge and if I get captured then I’m done for, and there goes our whole Rebel cell.

I have had that impression, that Kanan is just the front and Hera's the one really running things. Nice to see it confirmed. And it's kind of ruthless, because it implies she's willing to sacrifice Kanan if need be, to dangle him as bait for the Empire in order to protect her own role in the Rebellion.
 
I've been trying to give this show a chance but it's not growing on me. Initially I was let down that the animation and acting seemed less ambitious but it seems really lacking in scope as well. Star Wars tends to be big and this just feels really small to me.

I'm enjoying the show but agree it could probably use a greater sense of scope. And perhaps a greater sense of danger as well. Because as uninterested as I was by the entire Clone War in TCW, there was still at least a sense that something really huge and important was happening, and that there was a major threat out there that had to be dealt with.

And so far I'm not really feeling that with Rebels. Other than when they're actually been chased or attacked by the Empire, there's no sense that anything really big is happening or any sense that people's lives are really in that much danger.

And I think the show really needs that extra little element.
 
I'm pretty confident that it will slowly build as the rebellion takes shape. They're small and underpowered on purpose, like any anti-governmental / insurgent / guerrilla force. Cells won't know each other, there will be multiple levels of secrecy and intel, no one will engage in operations above their abilities, and more than likely we will NEVER see a huge fleet battle. I really doubt we'll have anything to the scale of what we saw the Rebellion mount on Yavin IV *until* we see Yavin IV, but it would be fun to see things slowly coming together to see how ragtag freighters and transports eventually become thirty rebel ships and the militarized force behind it.

Personally, I see plenty of evidence in the show that the rebellion is out there and growing, we're just along for the ride as we see it unfold through the eyes of Ezra and his tiny corner of it.

Mark
 
I would like to think the rebellion was rather small in 'A New Hope' then after the fist Death Star was destroyed. It would show people that maybe the Empire could be defeated and more people joined the cause.
 
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We know there was one major victory for the Rebellion prior to the Battle of Yavin. THe opening scroll of "A New Hope" told us that much, as it lead to the capture of the plans for the Death Star. But that won't be for several more years.

All other instances will be minor hot spots, small victories, or loses for the rebels. It is still a year or two away from the "formal" creation of the Alliance to Restore the Republic (by the old EU). Before that it was little cells, and independent rebel factions against the Empire. Then at some point various factions and groups came together and united against the Empire. This gave them more intel, better supply chains, and access to better equipment across the galaxy. Also allowed for some cross sector harrasment of the Empire and some functional military raids using starfighters and sometimes small captial ships. Also the release of Akbar from Tarkin's service (in the old EU).

Plus I imagine they'll but this group of Rebels into a lot of the old situations, like "liberating" the first X-wings and their defecting design team. I could see this easily turn into a on TV animated roleplaying game adventures for the old West End Games version of Star Wars.
 
Speaking of Tarkin, I'd love to see him turn up as a baddie at some point. Seems like he's never been utilized much outside of the first film.

*adds that to my wish list.
 
Well he should be the Moff in charge of the Outer Rim, or perhaps the increasing threat of the Rebels establishes him as Grand Moff of the Outer Rim Oversector to deal with the rebellion. All the while working on the much delayed Death Star.
 
Speaking of Tarkin, I'd love to see him turn up as a baddie at some point. Seems like he's never been utilized much outside of the first film.

*adds that to my wish list.

IIRC they used him in TCW on at least two occasions to great effect IMO.

Granted that was only a supporting role in a handful of episodes, but that's all you can really do with him.
 
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