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Star Wars novel reading order

My biggest issue with the novel line since Del Rey took over is all the massive "OMG greatest threat to the galaxy EVAR" multi-book series they keep putting out.

The post-ROTJ novels suffer the same ultimate problem as the post-ROTJ comics did back in the Marvel days. There is no following Vader. Clone Emperors, Imperial Remnant Warlords, Force-Proof Extra-Galactic Weirdos, Lost Sith Tribe of the Week, etc. just can't hold a candle to Vader (and to a lesser extent, the Emperor). The entire Star Wars story is based around them being the Biggest Bads of all time. You can't follow that.

The prequel and earlier stuff has a different though related problem, one shared by the prequel movies: we know how it ends. Yes, some interesting characters and situations may be developed, but really, we're just marking time until we get to the aforementioned Big Bads.

Lastly, the problem I've had with the novels is that the vast majority of them is that they don't ever really feel like Star Wars. I don't know what it is exactly, but maybe its that most of them never seem to quite capture the mythic or fairy-tale ethos of the originals. They either end up being some sort of Star Wars pastiche retread, or Star Trek with lightsabers, or something completely different which might be awesome (e.g. Shatterpoint) if it weren't weighed down by being a media tie-in.
 
The novel portion of the post-OT Expanded Universe in my opinion was never a feasible franchise by itself. Aside from the elements of the original trilogy such as Han, Luke and Leia, the EU failed to appeal to the readership with any of their derivative characters and concepts (Jacen, Anakin II, the Vong etc).
Piffle. Whether you like them or not, it's a categorical fact that tons of these books landed on the New York Times bestseller list, which would seem to indicate that someone is buying them.

Yeah, I agree. The SW EU is anything but a 'failure' from a sales standpoint I'd say.

Quality, I dunno. I'd like to see some more Rebellion/Empire stories but even that timeframe is getting a little crowded. I thought NJO was good, FotJ was ok, and I've only read the first Legacy book. I'm a little behind.
 
The novel portion of the post-OT Expanded Universe in my opinion was never a feasible franchise by itself. Aside from the elements of the original trilogy such as Han, Luke and Leia, the EU failed to appeal to the readership with any of their derivative characters and concepts (Jacen, Anakin II, the Vong etc).
Piffle. Whether you like them or not, it's a categorical fact that tons of these books landed on the New York Times bestseller list, which would seem to indicate that someone is buying them.
My point was not that the books can sell, but that they sold by virtue of the elements from the original trilogy. People bought it because they loved the characters and concepts from the original movies. Nobody bought the stories solely on the merits of the EU created characters or aliens.

And since the EU has changed so much of the original Lucas-created concepts and aged the characters to make them unrelatable, it's naturally that the EU has alienated an good section of the readership.
 
No, I disagree. I bought the New Jedi Order because I was excited about where they were taking the next generation.

If anything, the fact that the NJO ended up killing a sizable portion of that generation and dumping the focus back on the OT generation towards the end was one of its missteps.
 
Speaking of marking time, I'd say one of the EU's biggest missteps was jumping forward 100 years with the Legacy comics. Don't get me wrong; the storytelling in those comics is stellar. However, that series removes a lot of the suspense of where the galactic-level plotlines are going in Legacy of the Force and beyond.
 
Speaking of marking time, I'd say one of the EU's biggest missteps was jumping forward 100 years with the Legacy comics. Don't get me wrong; the storytelling in those comics is stellar. However, that series removes a lot of the suspense of where the galactic-level plotlines are going in Legacy of the Force and beyond.
That didn't bother me at all. Legacy was vastly superior to Legacy of the Force. It also made a clean break with the stars of the OT, which is something the book line seems reluctant to do. I can understand their hesitance, but the farther along the timeline they go, the more ridiculous it'll be to still have Luke, Leia, and Han at the forefront of the action.

Though I'm of the opinion that they've leapt so far in the timeline so quickly because they want to get Ben Skywalker old enough to take over as the novels' main hero.
 
Outside of the deaths of Luke/Han/Leia, there aren't many interesting stories left to tell of the current state of the post OT-universe. Much of that has to do with novels' inability to create a viable alternative to the Big 3.
 
However, that series removes a lot of the suspense of where the galactic-level plotlines are going in Legacy of the Force and beyond.

But it would be stretching it for them to reform the Republic/Alliance, the third or fourth time after the fall of the Empire. And at this point in time the sith, jedi, the alliance and empire are constants. The only thing from out of nowhere are the Fels becoming Emperors and creating imperial jedi.
 
Outside of the deaths of Luke/Han/Leia, there aren't many interesting stories left to tell of the current state of the post OT-universe. Much of that has to do with novels' inability to create a viable alternative to the Big 3.
It's not an inability so much as an unwillingness. The Big Three sell, so that's who they've been pushing.

They've already killed off two members of the Next Generation, one to create shock/drama and one to make room for Ben Skywalker, so all they have left are Jaina Solo and Ben, and eventually Jacen's daughter Allana. Jaina seems destined to join Jagged Fel in the Empire and found the Order of Imperial Knights, while it looks like Ben will succeed his father and become an important Jedi Knight. Allana's fate is still way up in the air; she's too young at this point.
The problem is they've put so much focus on the Big Three and their children that they haven't properly developed any potential characters that could tag along with them on their adventures. There's no wisecracking Han Solo type to play off of the (usually) strait-laced Ben Skywalker, for example.
 
Personally I've always found Luke-Han-Leia to be more interesting than the new characters. Though Jacen became an interesting character in the second half of NJO and in LOTF. And I'm liking Ben Skywalker now in FOTJ (didn't like him LOTF though!). If they removed the Big Three my interest would dramatically drop. Luke is the Gandalf/Yoda/Dumbledore of the EU at this point, the fascinating character who is so much cooler than every other character around him.
 
Piffle. Whether you like them or not, it's a categorical fact that tons of these books landed on the New York Times bestseller list, which would seem to indicate that someone is buying them.
My point was not that the books can sell, but that they sold by virtue of the elements from the original trilogy. People bought it because they loved the characters and concepts from the original movies. Nobody bought the stories solely on the merits of the EU created characters or aliens.

And since the EU has changed so much of the original Lucas-created concepts and aged the characters to make them unrelatable, it's naturally that the EU has alienated an good section of the readership.
Wait, so "a good section of the readership" has been alienated but the books' sales are also fine? I'm not saying they're good-- I myself really disliked Legacy of the Force and won't be touching Fate of the Jedi. But especially during the Bantam days and The New Jedi Order these books hit high on the bestseller list all the time. Just because you and me and our friends on the Internet don't like them doesn't mean everyone doesn't.
Speaking of marking time, I'd say one of the EU's biggest missteps was jumping forward 100 years with the Legacy comics. Don't get me wrong; the storytelling in those comics is stellar. However, that series removes a lot of the suspense of where the galactic-level plotlines are going in Legacy of the Force and beyond.
The fallacy of the this statement is that it assumes there ever could have been suspense in LotF.
 
I picked up Outbound Flight yesterday and I noticed it's got an (formerly) e-book story Mist Encounter in it, and I was just wondering where that takes place in relation to the main story? What about Cestus Deception and The Hive?
 
Mist Encounters takes place some time after Episode III when Thrawn has been
exiled by his race for violating their doctrine against preemptive strikes
 
Personally I've always found Luke-Han-Leia to be more interesting than the new characters. Though Jacen became an interesting character in the second half of NJO and in LOTF. And I'm liking Ben Skywalker now in FOTJ (didn't like him LOTF though!). If they removed the Big Three my interest would dramatically drop. Luke is the Gandalf/Yoda/Dumbledore of the EU at this point, the fascinating character who is so much cooler than every other character around him.

I wish I could feel the same way. I am enjoying Luke and Ben's relationship in FOTJ. In LOTF, I felt that Luke was held back too much in order to make the main villain a more credible threat. Though I enjoyed Ben's development in LOTF. It was largely his coming out series.

As for Han and Leia, I often find it hard to read their passages. I feel they are often shoehorned into some stories just because they are part of the Big Three. I don't think they need to be at the center of events like Luke does. If the background is good for Lando, I could at least see it being good for Han. Not saying put him in a retirement home, he can have stuff going on, but we don't always have to be following it, it can mentioned from time to time, and he can show up every now and then, but I don't think significant chunks of FOTJ need to be devoted to either Han or Leia. With LOTF, I definitely could understand why, though I feel the writers flubbed really exploring the Solo family's crucible.

Outside of name recognition, nostalgia, I think the novel writers since NJO haven't done a good job of creating interesting characters that can take the reins. The Yuuzhan Vong War took out a good deal of them and there haven't been any replacements. The current well known Jedi like Corran Horn, Kyle Katarn, Kyp Durron, Saba Sebatyne, Kam Solusar, etc. have largely been pushed to the background. And they have been relegated to the benches going on two complete series now. And even some of the well known Jedi are ciphers to me, like Katarn (never played the video games). Kenth Hamner is just now coming into his own. And the few remaining young Jedi haven't gotten much spot light either except for Tahiri and Jaina perhaps, and there is a lot of debate about the nature of the focus on them. Tahiri's character has been put through the wringer, and not always in a good, compelling, character building way (though I think FOTJ is doing better justice for her than LOTF did, though there was a recent revelation in Allies that was just icky where she was concerned.) As for Jaina, her arcs are more plot driven than character driven. LOTF should've been her story as much as Jacen's, but Ben got that time, and to some extent, Jaina is being pushed aside for Ben again in FOTJ. I think that's a mistake.

I think the comic book writers have done a better job creating compelling characters that could carry a series and retain fans, and maybe attract new ones, without having to rely on the big three necessarily. I would hope the novel writers take cues from the comics. I recently finished the novel Crosscurrent, featuring Jedi Jaden Korr and none of the Big Three, and I hope we get more books like that. The potential and characters are mostly already there, they just need to get some attention and development.
 
I'm finally just now reading Star Wars Legacy and I agree the characters are very interesting compared to the EU novel characters, particularly Cade.
 
I picked up Outbound Flight yesterday and I noticed it's got an (formerly) e-book story Mist Encounter in it, and I was just wondering where that takes place in relation to the main story? What about Cestus Deception and The Hive?

Nice, is that in the paperback version then?
 
Yeah, the paperbacks have alot of the e-books in them.
Novel+E-book:
Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter+DM: Saboture
Shaterpoint+Equitment
The Cestus Deception+The Hive
Republic Commando: True Colors+Odds
Outbound Flight+Mist Encounter
Tatooine Ghost+A Forest Apart
Survivor's Quest+Fool's Bargin
Sacrifice+Boba Fett: A Practical Man
Star By Star+Recovery
Dark Nest: The Joiner King+Ylesia

I just remembered something I've been wondering about.
For a while now I've been following along with what's been going on in the different series with wookiepedia, but there is one thing I haven't found out that I was curious about. Is Jaina the Jedi that helps start the Fel dynasty?
 
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