Star Wars New Jedi Order: How Long Should It Have Been?
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^^ Yes! Exactly! Balance Point is a complete waste of time! It's horrible!I believe it's also the low point of Jacen being a whiny do-nothing douche bag as well.
BTW there are big spoilers in this thread, you'll want to avoid reading it!
spoilers don't bug me. I'll still read everything to enjoy it all.
yeah, Jacen is truly getting on my nerves. With his whole "thou shall not use the force" stance. And not wanting to fight in the Yuuzhan Vong war. I just want him to take his ball and go home with it.
Or it crapped on TESB.
Jacen is being manipulated by Vergere into taking his philosophical view of the Force which as has been mentioned leads to his development in Legacy of the Force. A lot of fans were pissed off at this change when the books first came out.
It should've been 3 core novels that told the main story of the invasion with maybe a half dozen side novels.
OK if you do it that way...
1. Vector Prime (hardcover)
2. Dark Tide
3. Edge of Victory - will have to introduce Vergere here somehow
4. Star By Star (hardcover)
5. Traitor / Dark Journey
6. Enemy Lines
7. Destiny's Way
8. Force Heretic / Last Prophecy - will have to severely curtail the Nom Amor / Prophet story
9. Unifying Force (hardcover)
1. Vector Prime (hardcover)
2. Dark Tide
3. Edge of Victory - will have to introduce Vergere here somehow
4. Star By Star (hardcover)
5. Traitor / Dark Journey
6. Enemy Lines
7. Destiny's Way
8. Force Heretic / Last Prophecy - will have to severely curtail the Nom Amor / Prophet story
9. Unifying Force (hardcover)
I meant that fans were pissed (some vocal about it even on here at the time) with the direction that Jacen was taken. I remember being absolutely fascinated by it.
I never read the young adult books so Vector Prime was my introduction to adult Jacen. I despised the character in the first half of the series, what a whiny little wimp, dithering away while billions of people died, but he became a fascinating character in the second half of the series, and I really liked the journey he took in LOTF, I thought it was very well done.
I think we need an ongoing general Star Wars novel discussion thread for news and stuff.
I wouldn't change a thing. Despite whatever missteps there might have been (Dark Journey, and Jaina repeating the same character arc again and again), the NJO was a fascinating, ambitious experiment I very much enjoyed seeing unfurl both in real-time then, some years ago, rereading the whole thing over the course of a summer. When I think "Star Wars fiction", it's the NJO (and the X-Wing series) that stand out as landmark achievements. Indeed, given what followed (the middling Dark Nest trilogy, and the boring, forced, revisionist shite of Legacy onwards), I usually like to think that the story of the Star Wars universe ends with The Unifying Force. So I like that the NJO is as long as it is... one last, extended hurrah.
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
Given what happens in Dark Nest and LOTF and onwards, yeah, I kind of like to imagine that the story of Luke, Han, Leia, Mara, etc., ends with "The Unifying Force." And then the timeline jumps forward a hundred years to the very excellent comic book, Star Wars: Legacy.
^^ That would actually have a good sense of continuity, since the Legacy comic deals heavily with the aftermath of the Vong War, whereas LOTR and FOTJ has quickly swept the Vong and their devastation under the rug. I think Vong only appear in a single scene in the first Dark Nest book and that's it!
Oh, yeah, at the end of "The Unifying Force," the whole galaxy's been changed. The New Republic (excuse me, Galactic Alliance 
) is now headquartered on Denon, trillions of beings were killed, and Coruscant has been so altered that it would probably take decades or more to repair the damage.
But, nope. Five years later in Dark Nest, everything's all hunky dory and Coruscant is Coruscant again!
) is now headquartered on Denon, trillions of beings were killed, and Coruscant has been so altered that it would probably take decades or more to repair the damage.But, nope. Five years later in Dark Nest, everything's all hunky dory and Coruscant is Coruscant again!
I just finished reading "Unifying Force". Wow, that really did feel like the end of an era or a series. There were lots of aftermath and character resolution bits at the end, it was actually very touching. It really works well as a satisfying conclusion to a long form story with a lot of missteps in it. The heroes' victory is well won and plotted out and not without sacrifice (though after all the deaths, you'd think SOMEONE would have died in this one). It does look like Luke is going to die at the end, and I think it would have been a good death scene for him, but thank god they didn't. Luke is my favorite character in the EU books. He's the Dumbledore. The Gandalf. The Yoda.
And yeah it says there that it would take "decades" before Coruscant would be inhabited by anyone other than the engineers. They went back on that pretty fast
They also said that Luke might be permanently injured and forever lessened, but they definitely dropped that too.
And yeah it says there that it would take "decades" before Coruscant would be inhabited by anyone other than the engineers. They went back on that pretty fast
They also said that Luke might be permanently injured and forever lessened, but they definitely dropped that too.
James Luceno is right up there in terms of my favorite Star Wars novelists. He seems to get the universe and know how to handle the characters as well. His books are normally well paced as well.
The scale and writing of the last book was just really excellent. In spite of the horrific war action, there was humor and banter and it never felt as unrelentingly depressing like many of the other books. Also, the Vong were portrayed as a multifaceted culture on the brink of redemption rather than mindless torture happy bastards like they usually were.
