Everything built into this assumptions assumes ultimately the New Republic doesn't suffer any reversals in the war. It might just be possible the dilema in the ST is that their gains are reversed by the First Order and Kylo Ren.
Star Wars: Episode VII: The Nerd Rage Awakens
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I'd say they still are. One of our lead characters is a former Stormtrooper, another is a girl who lives on her own as a scavenger, the villain isn't a Sith at all but someone who only idolizes them, and the main story appears to revolve around the search for a missing Luke Skywalker.
Yeah it's likely there's another super-weapon involved somehow, and we still have good guys fighting an Empire-style villain... but it's freakin Star Wars. How complicated does this really need to get? We kind of expect there's going to be some huge weapon or oversized threat in most of these movies, don't we? It's amazing to me that people can only focus on those things and ignore all the other great new stuff we're getting.
Is that really that different? The villain is a dark side Force user with a red lightsaber and a metal mask, just like the villain in the OT (in which the word "Sith" was never mentioned, by the way).
None of these concepts are very original if you have paid attention to the Expanded Universe.
[x]Stormtroopers/clonetroopers as heroes
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/CT-7567
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/CT-5555
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Allegiance_(novel)
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Survivor's_Quest
[x]Solo/Skywalker as a junkdealer.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ania_Solo
[x] Sith Wannabes
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Inquisitor
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Emperor's_Hand
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Side_Elite
Yeah part of the story revolves around a cute little droid looking for a Jedi Knight and then there's the superweapon. But then while it was talked about in AOTC and seen under construction at the end of Ep. III, the prequels didn't revolve around a superweapon.
And I'd like to know what kind of great stuff we might be getting, if they kill off Han fans will hate the movie, especially if it's not done the way they wanted it. And of course as with the prequels there's bound to be people who jsut hate the movies and will spend years online complaining about them.
I'd love to see more lgith saber duels and dogfights as logn as they serve some fuction in the storyline.
I can't wait for the 'tone poem' commercials!
"Fear attracts the fearful" was terrific.
I think it is worth keeping in mind that the new villain is specifically obsessed with Darth Vader, so there is a purposeful, explicit call back to the original trilogy there. I don't doubt that there will be a lot of those kind of call backs, just like their would be in any sequel, but I'm pretty sure there will be plenty of new stuff.
That was probably the best and most effective of all the 1999 tone poem trailers. It's the one I remember the most frequently, that's for sure.
Roughly speaking, a single frame of 35mm film contains five to ten million pixels of information, depending on the specific stock, the lens used and the exposure levels. An HD frame, as of the time the new trilogy was produced a decade-plus ago, contains roughly two million pixels of information.
But who says it was the original cuts? RMW's own sizzle reel has shots from Star Wars and Empire, but none of them are from scenes that were redone in the special editions. Beyond that, George Lucas' Technicolor dye print is very likely the only extant print in the world that can be used as a reference for the correct color timing of the original (the camera negatives are unusable and almost every theatrical print in circulation is badly faded), and it's highly unlikely Lucas would just hand it over and say, "Here, take it."
Beyond that, the relationship between Disney and Fox isn't exactly cordial. Fox is sitting on one of the great treasure troves of home video, and it knows it. This isn't a situation like the 1960s Batman TV series, where everyone involved realized it was going to go to a niche market and no one was losing a ton of money by sitting on it, so they worked things out.
The older generations will KNOW that Ford wanted gone in ROTJ in 1983, so most will probably be expecting it from TFA - especially as it's pretty much common knowledge now, anyway.
Even older fans (60+) will accept it as "part of life" and part of movie tropes, especially compared to older films.
The younger generations (Gen Y and Gen Stupid) won't give two shits because "it's just that old man and old men die".
You don't really think any of that matters do you? All you're saying is that those of us who were spoiled already and seemingly don't care. Which of course isn't true the fans do care and it should be an emotional moment, whether a person has been spoiled or not.
Similarly, if one tries to imagine Star Trek as a generic space opera instead of science fiction it's not really bad at all.
I won't "hate" the Star Wars franchise if Han dies in the new movie. I don't want him to be killed off, but if it happens (which is a strong possibility) then Han Solo had a pretty good run of four films out of the last seven and appearing in two of the three Trilogies. Harrison Ford wanted George to kill his character as early as Empire but Lucas refused to do so, and from the moment Ford joined the cast of the new film I'd wondered if part of the reason he agreed to come back was because J.J. and Lawrence Kasdan finally did what George didn't want to do about 35 years ago.
If Han dies, it'll be a very sad and poignant moment for me as a person who grew up with his character as part of my generation's pop culture identity and one of the most recognizable heroes of the big screen, but I won't be mad at the producers.
If Han dies, it'll be a very sad and poignant moment for me as a person who grew up with his character as part of my generation's pop culture identity and one of the most recognizable heroes of the big screen, but I won't be mad at the producers.
TFA will divide the fans again, while I have no expectations of the film itself I do expect people to hate the movie for whatever reasons.
If they do, then they do. Don't worry about how fanboys will react to something in a new movie, focus on your own enjoyment of the film. Frankly I couldn't care less if some fans throw another "[insert name here] ruined my childhood" fit because the movie isn't exactly what they wanted it to be.
If the movie's great or it falls short it'll do so based on its own merits and the script, not because of what the fanbase expects and doesn't want to see.
If the movie's great or it falls short it'll do so based on its own merits and the script, not because of what the fanbase expects and doesn't want to see.
They'll hate it, but they'll go see it twelve times none the less.
The problem as always lies with expectations, fans didn't expect the clone Wars to play out the way they did in the prequels and got angry over it. Anakin wasn't what people thought he'd be and yet again we got the same reaction. If TFA doesn't for whatever reasons live up to expectations it'll be a failure in most fans eyes.
