Star Wars: Episode VII: The Nerd Rage Awakens

[Jedi_Master]

That's one of the nice things about being a Star Wars fan, very few people give a poop about how the various techy things work.

They just do.

You want a Superlaser that can destroy planets? Go for it!

You want to do the Kessel Run in twelve parsecs... Go for it!

 

[DarthTom]

^^ Exactly. Who can forget all of the whining when STID came out regarding the Enterprise being underwater. It was a great visual and there were several funny lines and scenes that came from that concept.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

I wouldn't even say it took a couple of days. Who would stay locked up in a cramped X-Wing cockpit for more than a day without going stir-crazy or needing to pee? It's not like he can pull over anywhere he wants and go behind a floating space-tree.

Some Jedi powers are rarely if ever talked about...

 

[Jedi_Master]

[Luke] But how will I know when it's time to finally poop? [/Luke]

[Yoda] You will know, when you are a calm, at peace, passive. [/Yoda]

 

[DarthTom]

[Luke] But how will I know when it's time to finally poop? [/Luke]

[Yoda] You will know, when you are a calm, at peace, passive. [/Yoda]

Yoda reverses his nouns and verbs:

[yoda] Know, you will, when calm, you are, at peace, passive[/yoda]

 

[Jedi_Master]

Interestingly in ESB he actually says... "You will know, when you are at calm, at peace, passive."

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFGBoSt1dOo[/yt]

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Totally.

 

[RoJoHen]

Yeah, Yoda's backwards speech patterns are starting to get a little out of control.

 

[ryan123450]

Finished the upcoming Star Wars: Heir to the Jedi last night. Here's my review:

http://startreklitverse.yolasite.com/star-wars-reviews.php

This was the first novel I ever read staring Luke Skywalker, and I liked it. Can't wait for the next two upcoming novels. I'm thinking they will be the best of the new canon novels yet.

 

[kirk55555]

Finished the upcoming Star Wars: Heir to the Jedi last night. Here's my review:

http://startreklitverse.yolasite.com/star-wars-reviews.php

This was the first novel I ever read staring Luke Skywalker, and I liked it. Can't wait for the next two upcoming novels. I'm thinking they will be the best of the new canon novels yet.

I'm really excited for the book. I've become a big Kevin Hearne fan over the last few months, so I'm sure he's going to do a great job with the book.

 

[Ithekro]

The main place were there can be a lot of time in Empire Strikes Back is the long trip to Bespin and Luke's training with Yoda. Speed training it would seem since Yoda manages to teach Luke everything he requires, though not practised enough to fully control these things. That would take another year and a new lightsaber to finish (though even younglings and Padawan build their own lightsabers by the Clone Wars).

 

[cooleddie74]

[Luke] But how will I know when it's time to finally poop? [/Luke]

[Yoda] You will know, when you are a calm, at peace, passive. [/Yoda]

Obi-Wan's Force ghost: "It is you and your disciplined colon that the Emperor wants. That is why your diet is made to suffer."

 

[Ithekro]

One issue they are going to have over the stormtroopers is those fans that cared enough to watched the films, but not the cartoons and such. Some of these don't like what they think is a contradiction by having anyone else but a Jango Fett clone in the armor. I pointed out to one that in the story it has been up to 60 years since the clones were being used in combat and that the clones age twice as fast as regular humans. Jango is dead. It is unknown how long they can continue to produce new clones without the originals cells to start them off. We don't know if a cell from a clone would work to make another clone in this universe's method of cloning (since the clone's DNA is altered save for Boba Fett).

If they could not make new clones of that type without Jango Fett, they would need to switch to a new template once their supply of cells ran out. Or resort to recruiting/drafting humanoids to fill the suits of armor. Judging by Rebels and other sources, they turned to recruitment and drafting troopers.

Assuming the last batch of clones was started within a year after Jango's death, those troopers would be biologically over 40 by the time of A New Hope. The first batch, any that managed to survive the war, would be biologically in their mid-60s.

By the time of The Force Awakes? The first batch would be well over 100 years old biologically, while the last batches would turning 100 biologically.

 

[Enterprise1701]

^You'd think that a soldier with decades-old mental capacity and experience would know better than to hit their head on the ceiling of their facility.

 

[Saul]

Yeah, Yoda's backwards speech patterns are starting to get a little out of control.

Nah, he always had this problem.

 

[cooleddie74]

On the bright side he can still get his gimer stick up.

 

[JoeZhang]

Star Wars creator George Lucas has admitted his ideas for a new trilogy of films were ignored by studio Disney after he sold all rights to the long-running space opera saga in October 2012.

The film-maker told USA Today last week that he planned to shoot the seventh movie in the long-running space opera saga - since retooled by JJ Abrams as Star Wars: The Force Awakens - and release it in May this year.

He also provided treatments for three new films. But in a new interview with Cinema Blend Lucas revealed that none of his ideas made the final screenplay for Abrams’ debut turn in the director’s chair.

“The ones that I sold to Disney, they came up to the decision that they didn’t really want to do those,” said Lucas. “So they made up their own. So it’s not the ones that I originally wrote [on screen in Star Wars: The Force Awakens].”

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015...s-films-disney

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Star Wars creator George Lucas has admitted his ideas for a new trilogy of films were ignored by studio Disney after he sold all rights to the long-running space opera saga in October 2012.

The film-maker told USA Today last week that he planned to shoot the seventh movie in the long-running space opera saga - since retooled by JJ Abrams as Star Wars: The Force Awakens - and release it in May this year.

He also provided treatments for three new films. But in a new interview with Cinema Blend Lucas revealed that none of his ideas made the final screenplay for Abrams’ debut turn in the director’s chair.

“The ones that I sold to Disney, they came up to the decision that they didn’t really want to do those,” said Lucas. “So they made up their own. So it’s not the ones that I originally wrote [on screen in Star Wars: The Force Awakens].”

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015...s-films-disney

I am not sure how I feel about that. On the one hand, I'm sure we'll be getting a lot of fans shouting "Praise Jesus!" or suitable alternate icon from the rooftops, and Disney and Abrams are certainly within their rights to go their own way, but I feel like at least with the new trilogy they should have remained relatively true to Lucas' basic vision rather than throwing it all out, just for the sake of maintaining some kind of continuity of authorship (Lucas had lots of collaborators, but he always put his "stamp" on each film and provided the broad strokes and overall guidance). They have plenty of spinoff features where they can go entirely their own direction, so it would have been nice to see them remain at least partially true to Lucas' creative input for the main trilogy entries. Lucas' fault is not his creativity, it's in having too many Yes Men around who are unwilling to call him on his worst impulses. Disney and Abrams could have done that without eliminating all his contributions to the story.

Oh well. It's no premature knock on the quality or lack thereof of the upcoming films, which could still be great. It's just kind of sad in a way to see Lucas' contributions being completely set aside here. Granted, he's been compensated handsomely and it's entirely Disney's prerogative, but it feels like the end of an era and kind of sad note for it to end on.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Star Wars creator George Lucas has admitted his ideas for a new trilogy of films were ignored by studio Disney after he sold all rights to the long-running space opera saga in October 2012.

The film-maker told USA Today last week that he planned to shoot the seventh movie in the long-running space opera saga - since retooled by JJ Abrams as Star Wars: The Force Awakens - and release it in May this year.

He also provided treatments for three new films. But in a new interview with Cinema Blend Lucas revealed that none of his ideas made the final screenplay for Abrams’ debut turn in the director’s chair.

“The ones that I sold to Disney, they came up to the decision that they didn’t really want to do those,” said Lucas. “So they made up their own. So it’s not the ones that I originally wrote [on screen in Star Wars: The Force Awakens].”

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015...s-films-disney

I am not sure how I feel about that. On the one hand, I'm sure we'll be getting a lot of fans shouting "Praise Jesus!" or suitable alternate icon from the rooftops, and Disney and Abrams are certainly within their rights to go their own way, but I feel like at least with the new trilogy they should have remained relatively true to Lucas' basic vision rather than throwing it all out, just for the sake of maintaining some kind of continuity of authorship (Lucas had lots of collaborators, but he always put his "stamp" on each film and provided the broad strokes and overall guidance). They have plenty of spinoff features where they can go entirely their own direction, so it would have been nice to see them remain at least partially true to Lucas' creative input for the main trilogy entries. Lucas' fault is not his creativity, it's in having too many Yes Men around who are unwilling to call him on his worst impulses. Disney and Abrams could have done that without eliminating all his contributions to the story.

Oh well. It's no premature knock on the quality or lack thereof of the upcoming films, which could still be great. It's just kind of sad in a way to see Lucas' contributions being completely set aside here. Granted, he's been compensated handsomely and it's entirely Disney's prerogative, but it feels like the end of an era and kind of sad note for it to end on.

These are basically my feelings as well, although it's impossible to know for sure sight unseen how good the ideas that Lucas submitted really were, even in broad strokes.

Case in point. For me The Clone Wars was a mixed bag. Overall, I thought that the series was brilliant, but I thought that the highly-praised Mortis arc was junk. And apart from Ventress, there wasn't much that I found compelling about the Nightsisters, either. I eye-rolled inside every time the witches poured a potion or stirred a cauldron. Hypothetically, if Lucas had wanted to delve into Force mysticism along either of those lines (Mortis/Nightsisters), my impulse would have been to pass right there.

A quest to the midi-chlorian home planet probably wouldn't have grabbed me, either.

 

[Doctorwhovian]

The Nightsisters I believe made their debut in The Courtship Of Princess Leia novel-however, the canonical Clone Wars version is somewhat different (and inspired a bit by TPM concept art).

I think it was established in the EU that Sian Phillips witch in the second Ewok TV movie was a Nightsister but that's no longer canon of course.