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Star Wars: Episode VII: The Nerd Rage Awakens

Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

cooleddie74 said:
I remember somebody in the entertainment industry once describing the Battle of Endor and the Second Death Star in ROTJ as perhaps the greatest aerial/space battle ever committed to film, greater than the original conflict over the first Death Star, anything in the Prequels or all the spacecraft battles filmed for other sci-fi/fantasy films through the decades. Part of that adoration comes from the sheer complexity of the stop-motion and bluescreen photography done to assemble a battle containing so many large capital ships, a looming, colossal battle station, Endor below and all the zipping Rebel and Imperial fighters trying to elude one another's blaster fire.

It also feels like a much more personal battle because of the focus placed on Lando and Nien Nunb in the cockpit of the Falcon and Wedge soaring alongside or behind them in his battleworn X-Wing. Lando and Wedge are characters we grew to like over the course of two or three films and now they were placed right in the middle of this enormous orbital battle with a plethora of bright explosions, streaking vessel trails and remote detonations caused by attacking ships too distant to see clearly. All of these elements combined with the raw physical effort it took to film and transfer them to celluloid to create a truly memorable and exciting conflict in the vacuum of space.

The Battle of Naboo and the Trade Federation droid control ship? The Battle of Coruscant and General Grievous' flagship? Not so much. They're fantastic eye candy, but just don't offer a personal connection or a believable sense of danger the way the Endor clash does. We know nine-year-old Anakin by the end of Episode I....but do we feel for his victory the same way we do for Lando, Nien Nunb and Wedge when they cheer and laugh, the Death Star exploding behind them as they escape at the last moment?
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Agreed.
 
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Wedge's combat record should put him at the head of the pack over any glorified johnny come lately like Skywalker. Wedge is awesome. Pure skill, no no hokey mysticism.
 
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Gov Kodos said:
Wedge's combat record should put him at the head of the pack over any glorified johnny come lately like Skywalker. Wedge is awesome. Pure skill, no no hokey mysticism.
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Wrong Way Wedge? I think not.

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Plus, his nephew is Ewan MacGregor, so there might be a little Jedi in him.

[edit] Ninja'd!
 
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Poor Dack. He couldn't make it to any reunions.




Too soon?
 
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:techman:

Those backseat drivers never learn.
 
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And yet, one has to wonder where Porkins would be if only he'd had a little Dak behind him.
 
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Ancient Mariner said:
And yet, one has to wonder where Porkins would be if only he'd had a little Dak behind him.
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At an all-you-can-eat BBQ Bantha restaurant, most likely.

You see, because he's fat. And named Porkins.

These jokes practically just write themselves.
 
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The actor William Hootkins (Jek Porkins) actually had a connection to the mythos surrounding the JFK assassination.

From Wiki:

Hootkins was born in Dallas, Texas. At the age of 15, Hootkins found himself caught up in the FBI's investigation into the assassination of President John F. Kennedy when he was interviewed about Mrs. Ruth Paine, the woman "harboring" Marina Oswald, the Russian wife of the presumed assassin Lee Harvey Oswald. He had been studying Russian with Paine at his school, St. Mark's in Dallas, where he also developed his taste for theatre, joining the same drama group as Tommy Lee Jones. Hootkins would later say that, since Jones was better looking and got all the best parts, "I supported from then on in."
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Now we know why he didn't survive the first Death Star. :shifty:
 
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You'll be pleased to know the Emperor has dissolved the Senate.

As in, like, literally dissolved them.
 
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The regional comedy clubs now have direct control over their audiences.

Drinks will keep the local audiences in line. Drinks like Jagermeister.
 
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

cooleddie74 said:
Hugo Weaving and Michael Fassbender are now rumored to be up for roles in next year's Episode VII, with talk that the genre fan favorite Weaving is up for the role of an unnamed Imperial officer of the post-Palpatine era.

J.J. Abrams and screenwriter Lawrence Kasdan have also supposedly been retooling the script of the new film to focus more heavily on the classic Troika from the OT (Luke, Leia and Han) and less on any secondary heroes such as theoretical offspring of the previous episodes' heroes. Thoughts? Facebook and other websites have been replete with posters who don't care much for the idea of fifty/sixtysomething Luke and Leia and a seventyish Han running around as action heroes in the Sequel Trilogy, with some even saying that Harrison Ford's turn as Indiana Jones in Crystal Skull demonstrated that his days as a believable action hero are behind him. Me? I want to see the classic heroes and the Skywalker Twins again, but it might be very wise to let younger characters take much more prominent roles in Episodes VIII and IX so that the Skywalker family legacy and/or the restored Jedi Order can take the spotlight to usher in a great new era in galactic history.

There's only so much that Hamill, Ford and Fisher can pull off these days without being turned into CGI cartoons whirling and spinning all over the screen.
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Good lord about that latest Star Wars rumor. As one poster said, the original trio already have a final sendoff...it was called Return of the Jedi. Look, I think they should be back and have screen time but basing an entire movie movie around them is ****ing nuts! Seriously, Kathleen Kennedy and Disney think that would be a great idea? This was why they hired JJ Abrams? That is how they want to build a new Star Wars, by wheeling the original trio out from a retirement home and making them the focus of an entire movie? I'm actually concerned that this rumor might be true.

If true, this should be Exhibit A as to why fanboys should not be put in charge of franchises. It will also reinforce the belief that as a filmmaker, JJ doesn't have an original bone in his body. He revels in nostalgia while not trying to create anything of his own. JJ Abrams everyone, the new Spielberg.
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If Lucas had come up with this idea, it would have been ripped on by people on the internet and rightfully so.
 
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

cooleddie74 said:
The regional comedy clubs now have direct control over their audiences.

Drinks will keep the local audiences in line. Drinks like Jagermeister.
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And what of cynicism? If the cynics have obtained a complete cinematic critique of the Prequel Trilogy, it is possible — however unlikely — that they might find a weakness and exploit it.
 
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Locutus of Bored said:
kirk55555 said:
Also, I always say my opinion is just that, my opinion.
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Your opinion based on not seeing the final product yet. Which is perfectly valid, because I have directors whose prior films I don't like either and there's no reason I have to see their new film in order to say that it's probably not for me. The difference being, once I know who's directing, and I know I'll probably not like it, I really don't have anything further to contribute to the thread, so I bow out from that point on. I don't continue to harp on that one single issue over and over again and dominate the entire thread with my complaints, which is something you do continuously, whether it's about Man of Steel or Christopher Nolan superhero films or Gal Gadot playing Wonder Woman or this.

That's why people take issue with you, not just because they don't like your opinion. It's that you make every thread you participate in all about you and your one-note extremely premature opinion which you have no intention of altering, and you keep hammering that singular complaint into the ground when there's no room for a discussion to really develop from it. You need to learn that you don't have to grace everyone with your opinion about everything, especially if you're not even the slightest bit interested or encouraged about the project from the get go. Or, at the very least, once you've made your point the first time, and there's nowhere else to go with it, then let it go and let other people who are more interested in the subject matter than you continue the discussion.

As it is, it just looks like you enjoy being the center of attention, and discussing the movies themselves are secondary to that.
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Fair enough. I just want to point out that I am very interested in the project, because its Star Wars. As a SW fan, it doesn't matter who is working on it, I have an interest in it. You don't have to be positive about something to be interested in it. Its a movie from a franchise I really like, there is no way I won't be following the news as it comes and I'll be interested in seeing what happens with it, regardless on the fact that I think it will suck.

Still, I get your point, so (absent some ground breaking, legitimate news about the movie) I'll bow out of the conversation.
 
Re: New Casting and Story Rumors re: EPISODE VII

kirk55555 said:
I just want to point out that I am very interested in the project, because its Star Wars. As a SW fan, it doesn't matter who is working on it, I have an interest in it.
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You certainly seem to care that J.J. Abrams is working on it and say he'll ruin the franchise. But whatever. To each their own.

Anyways, back to Episode VII casting....although there's probably little chance that he'd ever be a significant character with a hefty role to perform on-screen, I still wonder if Billy Dee Williams is going to be included in the script of Episode VII and if Lando Calrissian will be resurrected as some official or aging hero of the New Republic with some sort of special status as one of those who helped bring down Palpatine's rule. At one point Billy Dee said he'd be happy to reprise the role if asked and some rumors had not only Ford, Hamill, Fisher, the two droids and Chewie coming back for the sequel but also Williams as well as Denis Lawson as a mature Wedge Antilles.

Keep those old Colt .45s nice and chilled just in case.
 
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