Star Wars: Episode VII: The Nerd Rage Awakens

[cooleddie74]

In some respects they're like a more benevolent and respectable Mafia organization, which to a large degree also sees itself as doing the right and correct things to protect its own interests and stand up for centuries-old traditions, but often at the expense of outsiders they come into contact with and forcing its own members to go through initiation rites and adhere to rigidly-enforced behavioral codes.

 

[davejames]

For me, it's a matter of personality. Anakin is not someone I want to see succeed or become a great Jedi or anything like that. He's someone that I think has a lot to learn and has a lot of growing up to do. That's fine for a teen drama, but not for me.

Yeah that's ultimately what it comes down to for me. Even if Anakin's story does make some psychological sense (which is highly debatable), there is still nothing about him that makes me want to either root for him to succeed or feel bad when he falls to the Dark Side.

 

[fireproof78]

For me, it's a matter of personality. Anakin is not someone I want to see succeed or become a great Jedi or anything like that. He's someone that I think has a lot to learn and has a lot of growing up to do. That's fine for a teen drama, but not for me.

Yeah that's ultimately what it comes down to for me. Even if Anakin's story does make some psychological sense (which is highly debatable), there is still nothing about him that makes me want to either root for him to succeed or feel bad when he falls to the Dark Side.

I think that is a better summary of it.

I'll be curious to see what my view is on Anakin after my current psychology class regarding childhood and adolescence. Not sure if my professor will like my using Anakin as a client, but I might get some application in their

 

[DWF]

This was one of the puzzling things about the Jedi, that they would embrace the Clone Army, even knowing that it had been created under false pretenses.

The Jedi embraced and commanded an army of human slaves. Dwell on that for a moment.

Yeah. I think I saw a discussion about how in other films the Jedi would be the bad guys. Corrupt, inept and struggling to adapt to the needs of protecting the peace.

It's frustrating to try and be on their side when these are the choices they are making.

Good and evil in the Star Wars universe is a matter of choice as it is in real life. But I don't think Lucas took a Judeo-Christian viewpoint about life and death, it's more of a Taoist way of looking at things, where good and evil exist side by side in all things. Once I looked at the Force that way I understood what Lucas was trying to say, balance of the Force meant having good and evil in the Jedi as things were probably before the split of the Jedi and the Sith.

 

[DWF]

Oh and some good news, this Monday the third and final trailer comes out. I can't download it but I'm sure there'll be plenty of talk about it.

 

[JD]

Well, that's a rumor going around. At least it was yesterday, I haven't heard about it being officially confirmed.

Io9 has posted 50 of the TFA cards from Topp's digital trading card app, Card Trader.
The only things we haven't seen before are a slightly different Stormtrooper and a new big FO gun on a tripod. There is a rather intriguing in one of the Chewie cards though. In it we see

Spoiler: something interesting, and potentially spoilery.

him and Rey alone in the Falcon cockpit, with no sign of Han. With all of the rumors going around about Han dying, I can't help but wonder why Rey is at the ship's controls instead of him

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[Tulin]

Sad how some are so obsessed / defensive over some piece of entertainment that has nothing to do with them at all, that they will attack strangers for expressing an opinion.

Are you new to the internet?

And the OP in that case wasn't expressing an opinion, he was being deliberately trolling and inflammatory.

He got the response he deserved.

 

[Tulin]

Oh and some good news, this Monday the third and final trailer comes out. I can't download it but I'm sure there'll be plenty of talk about it.

Yeah - it was mentioned a couple of pages back.

 

[Tulin]

Exactly two months from today TFA premieres in Australia - and I begin my three week Star Wars Christmas holiday!!!

 

[cooleddie74]

That comment and the reply would pretty mild trolling for this BBS. I myself try (and sometimes fail) to avoid such comments over something as minor as an opinion about a new movie that nobody's yet seen, but that comeback would be dowright kid-friendly and G-rated compared to many I see on the Internet on a regular basis.

 

[fireproof78]

The Jedi embraced and commanded an army of human slaves. Dwell on that for a moment.

Yeah. I think I saw a discussion about how in other films the Jedi would be the bad guys. Corrupt, inept and struggling to adapt to the needs of protecting the peace.

It's frustrating to try and be on their side when these are the choices they are making.

Good and evil in the Star Wars universe is a matter of choice as it is in real life. But I don't think Lucas took a Judeo-Christian viewpoint about life and death, it's more of a Taoist way of looking at things, where good and evil exist side by side in all things. Once I looked at the Force that way I understood what Lucas was trying to say, balance of the Force meant having good and evil in the Jedi as things were probably before the split of the Jedi and the Sith.

To a certain degree. Lucas had a bit of mix of both Taoism and Judeo-Christian ideas and influences, among others, that came about as part of his development. One of my religious studies instructors even compared Yoda to Taoist master, to a certain degree. Looking deeper, as I got to do in that class, there are of course some disparities.

However, while I get what Lucas was trying to do, both later on in ROTJ, and with the PT, is add some gray to what was, originally, a black and white morality play, I don't feel like it lands. For me, with how, largely, successful the OT was in its presentation, that's pretty disappointing.

I don't worry too much about the morality and personal choice, so much as present it in a way that feels consequential to the characters in the story.

I'm sure others will disagree, so YMMV, MTFBWY and PALL

 

[Tulin]

So what are we expecting from the new preview?

I'm hoping we at least see Leia.

 

[DWF]

I would hope we see some of the lightsaber duel, mabe part of a dogfight, Rey supposedly has a River Tam/Xena style fight scene against some stormtroopers and the knights of ren, I would like to see some of that if it actaully happens in the film. And I would like to hear some dialogue adnd I would like to see Poe, Rey and Finn together in a scene.

 

[cooleddie74]

So what are we expecting from the new preview?

I'm hoping we at least see Leia.

The word is we'll see her in the new trailer along with a glimpse of C-3PO. Up until now the only glimpses of Threepio have been from still photos and the Comic-Con footage reel.

 

[Tulin]

Okay so I found this article,

http://www.slashfilm.com/force-awakens-trailer-release-confirmed-for-october-19th/

but I STILL cannot find any info on exactly what MAY appear in the new trailer.

I DO, however, love how the writer says, be prepared for audiences to boo young Anakin's force ghost when he pops up at the end of ROTJ.

LOL!!!!!!!


Eeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwww prequel cooties!!!!

 

[JD]

I'm hoping the new trailer will give us more of a real feel for what the story will be. For all of the info we do have, we still know nothing about the story.

 

[Tulin]

LOL - It's out there mate. You just need to know where to look.

 

[cooleddie74]

This one will most likely be a "story trailer" and possibly the only one before the movie premieres except for the inevitable TV trailers and ads that will be broadcast in the buildup to December 18th.

 

[fireproof78]

I would hope we see some of the lightsaber duel, mabe part of a dogfight, Rey supposedly has a River Tam/Xena style fight scene against some stormtroopers and the knights of ren, I would like to see some of that if it actaully happens in the film. And I would like to hear some dialogue adnd I would like to see Poe, Rey and Finn together in a scene.

I would like to see more of Poe, period.

Also, I'm hoping Rey as an amazing fight with that staff. She looks like she is going to be quite combative.

 

[Mage]

Personally, I'd love to see a little bit of the old trio. Perhaps a little bit more about what the actual plot will be about. And some lightsaber/Force-using stuff.